Rusted CVA

A friend of mine bought a cva muzzleloader real cheap and a very rusty barrel. I told I would try to clean it up for him.
Visually I couldn't see the grooves from the lands. Breechplug came out after soaking for a bit, it was completely clogged. Breechplug was easy to clear up with drill bits and soaking for a couple days.
I worked on the barrel for two weeks, worked on it about an hour every night. I used bore cleaners, Kroil brass bore brushes, steel wool and even used 220 grit lapping compound.
Barrel looks ok now except for some pitting on the flats of the lands. No pitting in the groves?
I want to shoot it now but was thinking if it would be a good idea to shoot lead bullets first to help smooth it out. What do you guys think??
Oh it's a 45cal. if so what bullet should I shoot?

I don't think it matters much from here on out. Pitted barrels can still shoot fine. The cahellenge is often keeping the clean with the pits.

I'm glad your herd work paid off.

Might consider the dyna Tek bore coating to seal them.

I have "reconditioned" quite a few smokers with rusted bores. I'd reccoment some shots with patched round ball and the patches treated with lapping compound. Then shooting prb if you can get the accuracy desired or saboted loads. "belted"type bullets will give quite a bit of leading with the rough bore. If bore is as you describe "minute of deer" should be easy to get at modest yardage. frequent cleaning to remove fouling and plastic from sabots will help with accuracy. I recommend a regimen of wet patch, brass or bronze brush, then dry patch then a patch with bore/bullet lube, then 2 or 3 shot group. JMHO, W

I have a t/c that has some pitting from one time I forgot to clean it. Started using a bore snake after that and the pitting hasn't got any worse and gun still shoots great

I know this is an old thread but, I myself just got a muzzleloader from a guy at work for cheap. (Traditions timber ridge .50) The gun looks awesome outside but the inside of the barrel didn't look so great. He said he cleaned it but when I got it, it was pretty "brown" inside and I cleaned as much of the rust as I could yesterday. I started out scrubbing the barrel with a brass brush then cleaned it with wet patches using Thompson center bore cleaner. Then I dry patched it a bunch until the patches would come out white. Then put the bore butter to it. (Spent a couple hours doing this) Today I got out of work and did the same. Barrel still has a little brownish color coming out of it when I try to clean it but nothing like it was. Should I keep doing this? Or should I be doing something else?

Pics

This pic is after the initial cleaning I did after getting it home from the other guys house.

This is a pic of it today after cleaning it again



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Bore Butter wont remove corrosion and its pretty poor at preventing it too. All you did with it was to likely trap water under it in the pits.

GM54-120 said:

Bore Butter wont remove corrosion and its pretty poor at preventing it too.

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Had to put something in there. Wasn't just gonna keep it dry. It's what I have been using for years in my 3 other muzzys and never had an issue. My other guns are spotless.


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There is a quick easy way to deal with the rust if you soak it over night in Evapo rust [ available at most auto parts stores] it will take out the rust even in the bottom of the pits. once the rust is out you will have to decide what else is needed.

Evapo-Rust works but it might remove blueing. The rusted area also needs to be submerged. Plug the barrel. Fill it up and let is set over night.

Dry the bore well and inspect it. Repeat if needed.

Dont use Bore Butter again on the rusted/pitted bore. It will just get into the pits and trap water in those pits. BB can be a pain to remove so you might need to give it a super good cleaning with something like Ballistol before using the Evapo-Rust.

GM54-120 said:

Evapo-Rust works but it might remove blueing. The rusted area also needs to be submerged. Plug the barrel. Fill it up and let is set over night.

Dry the bore well and inspect it. Repeat if needed.

Dont use Bore Butter again on the rusted/pitted bore. It will just get into the pits and trap water in those pits. BB can be a pain to remove so you might need to give it a super good cleaning with something like Ballistol before using the Evapo-Rust.

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Someone mentioned in another post that I could try soaking it in pb blaster penetrating oil for a week and scrub it really good and then clean it. Would this be ok? If I shouldn't use bore butter, what should I use to lube it up?


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Ive never used the PB Blaster products.

Any synthetic gun oil is safe with BP/Subs. I would suggest Ballistol if you prefer non toxic. Its available at most places. WD40 Specialist if you want better long term protection. Its NOTHING like regular WD40. Swab it out with a alcohol patch before firing.

https://www.wd40specialist.com/products ... inhibitor/

GM54-120 said:

Ive never used the PB Blaster products.

Any synthetic gun oil is safe with BP/Subs. I would suggest Ballistol if you prefer non toxic. Its available at most places. WD40 Specialist if you want better long term protection. Its NOTHING like regular WD40. Swab it out with a alcohol patch before firing.

https://www.wd40specialist.com/products ... inhibitor/

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Your the 3rd person to tell Me this so it must be good.


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For smoker barrels rust prevention is paramount and often difficult, especially if you live in a humid area. When cleaning a smoker most any product used will take the lube/grease/oil out of the barrel. After cleaning get the bore dry, I use a hair dryer, picked up a used bonnet type at yard sale and it works great. Then while barrel/bore warm and dry give bore coating with something like Shooters Choice "Rust Prevent" or Birchwood Casey "Barricade". When ready to shoot again a couple patches up and down the bore on the jag and ready to light the fire. This is what I do, your procedure may vary. W

wolfer said:

For smoker barrels rust prevention is paramount and often difficult, especially if you live in a humid area. When cleaning a smoker most any product used will take the lube/grease/oil out of the barrel. After cleaning get the bore dry, I use a hair dryer, picked up a used bonnet type at yard sale and it works great. Then while barrel/bore warm and dry give bore coating with something like Shooters Choice "Rust Prevent" or Birchwood Casey "Barricade". When ready to shoot again a couple patches up and down the bore on the jag and ready to light the fire. This is what I do, your procedure may vary. W

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I've heard a lot of good things about birchwood Casey "barricade" . Il Jane to try that thanks


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Centerfire gun oils are available all over town. The only name-brand I don't recommend is the standard Rem-Oil. Even the el-cheapo Hoppes Gun Oil is better than Rem-oil.

Keep the Bore Butter / Wonderlube out of that inline bore. One mistake cleaning the bore - a mistake that leaves cleaner behind, can create rust when trapped underneath the Bore Butter.

If you are 100% sure all forms of liquid cleaners are removed, then Bore Butter works OK. But is it really work the risk?... when most-all gun oils are water-soluble - can displace the moisture in cleaners and Bore Butter can not / will not displace liquid.

Muzzy2002 said:

wolfer said:

For smoker barrels rust prevention is paramount and often difficult, especially if you live in a humid area. When cleaning a smoker most any product used will take the lube/grease/oil out of the barrel. After cleaning get the bore dry, I use a hair dryer, picked up a used bonnet type at yard sale and it works great. Then while barrel/bore warm and dry give bore coating with something like Shooters Choice "Rust Prevent" or Birchwood Casey "Barricade". When ready to shoot again a couple patches up and down the bore on the jag and ready to light the fire. This is what I do, your procedure may vary. W

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I've heard a lot of good things about birchwood Casey "barricade" . Il Jane to try that thanks


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Barricade is good too and like Wolfer said, make 100% certain the bore is dry as in (all water based cleaners) are gone. This is especially important with products like bore butter and bores with any pitting at all.

For extreme cleaning/polishing after removing fouling, a mix of Kroil and JB bore shine works well. Kinda messy and you need to clean it out after but its safe/effective.

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http://nextbukoutdoors.com/gun-care-product-evaluation/

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Wow!

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Wow!! Looks like wd40 specialist, hornady one shot, and frog lube are good choices


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