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Bullet seating force using blackhorn 209 with saboted bullets

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herschel conyers
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Bullet seating force using blackhorn 209 with saboted bullets

Postby herschel conyers » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:57 am

I was at the range last week shooting the shooter next to me says "man you really lean on that rod", I usually try to put 100 lbs of pressure on the bullet , estimated. I was wandering what pressure the top shooters use? Does the load have any springback?

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Re: Bullet seating force using blackhorn 209 with saboted bullets

Postby rangerod » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:10 am

I emailed Western Powders one time and asked them how much pressure it would take to crush BH. They said they didn't know and not to worry about it. When I load I seat the bullet and give one good hard firm push. It appears BH can be packed tightly only to a certain point. More pressure than necessary gains nothing but also doesn't hurt. Someone posted that ALL powders can be crushed. This is not true with BH. I have examined BH after packing as tightly as I can by hand and saw no evidence of crushing. I doubt there is any or very little springback and wouldn't matter. Just my opinion.

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Re: Bullet seating force using blackhorn 209 with saboted bullets

Postby herschel conyers » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:58 pm

Thank you rangerod, that gives me a different outlook now. Ill try just a firm seating, instead of leaning on the bench rod. The proof will be in the groups,

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Re: Bullet seating force using blackhorn 209 with saboted bullets

Postby muskrat30 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:54 pm

I give mine a very firm seating, but no pounding or ramming, just steady pressure. We can differentiate some from the force it takes to slide the projectile down. The bore fit with the saboted bullet(or whatever) should be just right, not to tight or loose.

No I don't use a torque wrench on lug nuts either, just go with my 'calibrated' shoulder. I don't see how a 'firm seating' would do anything to change or crush the powder.
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Re: RE: Bullet seating force using blackhorn 209 with saboted bullets

Postby muzzlestuffer » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:12 pm

herschel conyers wrote:I was at the range last week shooting the shooter next to me says "man you really lean on that rod", I usually try to put 100 lbs of pressure on the bullet , estimated. I was wandering what pressure the top shooters use? Does the load have any springback?

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I'm not going to say who I talked to but he is a top shooter and he puts a very light pressure on his bullets as well as me he said the 209 needs air in between the powder to burn properly

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