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There seems to be a lot of questions concerning modern in-line muzzleloader recoil and how it does or does not affects scopes. It appears that many shooters are "blowing out" scopes on muzzleloaders, leading to using the Lifetime Warrantees.
There appears to be a multitude of different opinions on the subject, with no factual answers, if one can be found. There are a handful that state its entirely related to a quality issue. Another handful state they wear out like an auto. And yet another handful that state its entirely related to the shooting rest that shooters are using... ie; lead sleds.
Myself............. I don't have a clue and don't claim to have one.
I thought...... I had a pretty decent scope with the Nikon Monarch. I purchased two, 2.5-10x50's and could have purchased Leupolds. I took my time and compared them both and just settled on the Nikon. Money wasn't an issue at the time. Now I have to admit, that I've fired a couple thousand rounds with that scope on the rifle but, about a week ago my groups started opening up. At first I laid fault on all my eye surgeries this year, then it became apparent something else was wrong. Although it started shooting a vertical group, it was about 1/2" right, so I removed the cap and move it two (2) clicks left. When I fired the next two rounds, they shot over 4" left and darn near one hole. ???? WITHOUT touching that scope, I fired the third round and it moved back right 6" and down 3". The 4th reacted the same. So I removed that scope, installed the other scope, zeroed it and its perfect. This IMO tells me the scope went bad.
So I call Nikon to return it and after all the necessities were completed, I asked about shooting from any kind of lead sled and as to rather it could damage scopes. The response returned amounted to, We have no knowledge that ANY shooting rest of ANY kind will cause damage to the scope. Also stated, was that scopes are tested to over 300g, more than 10x recoil. Well that leaves me with the question of, have it just shot it to the point it needs repair or, is it a quality issue?
I know of a number of shooters who have "blown scopes" or know someone who has with muzzleloaders. Most DO NOT shoot from a lead sled but, have scopes on muzzleloaders that suddenly loose zero for unknown reasons and are off being repaired. Heck, I'm one of them. Its not just Nikon, however it never appears to be a Leupold.
Looking for others take on this issue...............
There appears to be a multitude of different opinions on the subject, with no factual answers, if one can be found. There are a handful that state its entirely related to a quality issue. Another handful state they wear out like an auto. And yet another handful that state its entirely related to the shooting rest that shooters are using... ie; lead sleds.
Myself............. I don't have a clue and don't claim to have one.
I thought...... I had a pretty decent scope with the Nikon Monarch. I purchased two, 2.5-10x50's and could have purchased Leupolds. I took my time and compared them both and just settled on the Nikon. Money wasn't an issue at the time. Now I have to admit, that I've fired a couple thousand rounds with that scope on the rifle but, about a week ago my groups started opening up. At first I laid fault on all my eye surgeries this year, then it became apparent something else was wrong. Although it started shooting a vertical group, it was about 1/2" right, so I removed the cap and move it two (2) clicks left. When I fired the next two rounds, they shot over 4" left and darn near one hole. ???? WITHOUT touching that scope, I fired the third round and it moved back right 6" and down 3". The 4th reacted the same. So I removed that scope, installed the other scope, zeroed it and its perfect. This IMO tells me the scope went bad.
So I call Nikon to return it and after all the necessities were completed, I asked about shooting from any kind of lead sled and as to rather it could damage scopes. The response returned amounted to, We have no knowledge that ANY shooting rest of ANY kind will cause damage to the scope. Also stated, was that scopes are tested to over 300g, more than 10x recoil. Well that leaves me with the question of, have it just shot it to the point it needs repair or, is it a quality issue?
I know of a number of shooters who have "blown scopes" or know someone who has with muzzleloaders. Most DO NOT shoot from a lead sled but, have scopes on muzzleloaders that suddenly loose zero for unknown reasons and are off being repaired. Heck, I'm one of them. Its not just Nikon, however it never appears to be a Leupold.
Looking for others take on this issue...............