Going Sabotless?

[rugerbh103]

I've been reading and think I know what I need to shoot sabotless. Can you guys confirm or tell me if I'm missing anything?

I currently have a Knight Ultra-Lite .50, BH209, wool wads, and .452 Fury 265 gr. STB bullets.

I would need a Knight Ultra-Lite Barrel Kit in .45, and a Hankins smooth sizing die.

Am I missing anything? Do you lube the bullets before you size them? Thanks for any help.

 

[ElDiablo]

That would get you started. I don’t lube mine before sizing. Should be no need with the Furies - they’re soft.

 

[ENCORE50A]

If you're shooting a 50cal, the .452" bullets will not work bullet to bore. You'll need to load them in a sabot.
Rather go with the 50cal Universal.
Or go with a 45cal.

 

[ElDiablo]

I would need a Knight Ultra-Lite Barrel Kit in .45, and a Hankins smooth sizing die.

He’s talking about buying a .45 barrel…..

 

[ENCORE50A]

I seen that but, didn't want him to think those .452 bullets would work in a 50 w/o a sabot.

 

[rugerbh103]

Thank you. I can afford a Knight 45 barrel. I'd love to play with a smokeless Omega, but it is currently out of my budget.

 

[Chris W.]

I believe Jeff Hankins recommends lubing your bullets before sizing to help prevent galling in the sizing die. I lube mine before sizing.

 

[bronko220002]

Thank you. I can afford a Knight 45 barrel. I'd love to play with a smokeless Omega, but it is currently out of my budget.

Why not just get an entire .45 action/barrel? I did that earlier. I bought a Disc Extreme .50 cal then later bought a .45 Moutaineer barreled action the dropped right in the stock.

 

[dozer_xj]

IDK what your goals are but you could go sabotless with your 50 too. The BC and twist rate isn't as high on a 50 but Fury has 50 cal bullets and the new Hornady 50 cal eld-x is looking neat. I have a 50 cal swing lock die I size bullets for 50s with.

 

[Larry Hill]

I've used both in my Knight Ultralight. It seems to prefer the 300 grain Thors, over sabots. I just bought 320 grain Furys to try and see if they group better.

 

[Solomoriah]

I have discovered through experimentation that you cannot fire a patched round ball in one of these and have it stay in the rifling.

Caliber X twist X 2 = max grains of BP. In my 45 cal with a 20 twist that's 18 grains. It squibs on a load that small.

I'll try the R.E.A.L bullets next weekend with 30 grains to see of that works - and if it does I'll work up from there. But I'm starting to think the 20 twist is too fast for anything outside of a plastic Sabot.

 

[smokepolehall]

I really can't say in general on a 1:20. i really have not wrung it out to be truthful about it. Mine barely can stabilize a 200 gr sabot/bullet with 2" - 2.5" groups. It kills tick toters & that is why i have it. It won't win any target shoots from 25 yards to 200 yards. I see this is about bore riders, Mine keyholes at 75 yards.

 

[sqezer]

I believe I have some .503 Fury that I was going to resize for my .50 Knight Long Range Hunter. I also have the Jeff Hankins resizer in both .45 and .50, I'll NEVER go back to sabots.