Hornady xtp How Hard to Push it

[lonewolf5348]

I been playing with the Hornady 44 cal xtp .430 diameter in the impact.
My question how hard should they be pushed.
I got 80 and 90 gr. BH 209 testing both loads shoot about the same POI .
The 90 gr. Is 2" higher at the 100 yd.
I think somewhere around 1825 FPS

 

[sabotloader]

I been playing with the Hornady 44 cal xtp .430 diameter in the impact.
My question how hard should they be pushed.
I got 80 and 90 gr. BH 209 testing both loads shoot about the same POI .
The 90 gr. Is 2" higher at the 100 yd.
I think somewhere around 1825 FPS

Are the powder loads by Volume or weighed - just never know these days when it comes to BH?

 

[ronlaughlin]

The 90g load is the better choice for hunting; my opinion.

 

[HC]

Xtp s in 44 cal start at 180 gr, 200 gr, 240 gr, 300 gr, so it depends on which xtp your shooting?

 

[lonewolf5348]

Volume
240 gr. HP non mag

 

[sabinajiles]

The 90g load is the better choice for hunting; my opinion.

I agree with Ron and actually, I would be loading 100-110 gr, which seems to be the best balance of accuracy, MV & energy for a lot of bullets in many rifles. Even at 120 gr max load for BH209, you would not be pushing the XTP too hard.

 

[Confederate rifleman]

I've come to the conclusion that the XTP's can be pushed faster, sometimes much faster, than Hornady rates them when fired with a sabot.
The rifling scores the jackets and sets up stress risers which can cause failures if driven as fast as you can with a sabot. With sabots, the jacket remains intact. No stress risers. I took 3 deer with 40 caliber XTP's. 2 180' s and a 200. The 180 grain were rated to 1350 fps. One deer took one at a muzzle velocity of 1550 fps, the other, a big 8 pointer, got one that started at 1750.
The 200 grain started at 1800, its rated to 1250, it hit the shoulder ball and blew it to bitty shards. Took a rib and went through her chest like a blender. Did not exit and was not found. That deer pulled all 4 feet straight up and dropped.
My favorite XTP is the 250 grain 45. Some drive to around 2000 fps( its rated to 1600) with good reports. I get it to 1575 fps for a great batch of chest soup.
I've shot 4 deer with the 240 grain 44 caliber at 1750 fps. Good results too.

 

[Jerzee Hillbilly]

I have used the 240 grain XTP's over 100 grain of 777 and BH 209 for a number of years. I have a collection of bullets recovered from deer I have taken. Every one are text book mushrooms. My longest shot was 160 yds and the shortest was 5 yds. Green crush rib sabots work the best from my encore. Anything from 70 grain to 120 works, just find what your gun likes.

 

[scratcherky]

I had trouble with the 240 grain XTP disintegrating on close range shots on several deer. Switched to the 240 grain XTP Mag and problem went away.

 

[Highoctane]

I had trouble with the 240 grain XTP disintegrating on close range shots on several deer. Switched to the 240 grain XTP Mag and problem went away.

I recovered this 240 gr XTP from a hog I shot a few years ago with my Rem. 700 muzzle-loader. No disintegration problems here. Bullet still weighs over 180 grs. Ive never had any issues with the XTP bullet..

 

[GM54-120]

Never seen a XTP with a base cupped like that

 

[Highoctane]

Never seen a XTP with a base cupped like that

Well, I don't know either but it' is what it is..

 

[GM54-120]

 

[kb2112]

I’ve shot the 250g .452 XTP out of my savage ML2 with the book load at about 2200 FPS. No issues with the penetration on whitetail deer. I use Harvester short sabots.

 

[Travis299]

Barnes 250 gr T-EZ recovered from a nice buck shot at about 45/50 yards using 2 pellets of T7. Bullet weighed 246 gr.

 

[ported45]

Never seen a XTP with a base cupped like that

Never saw an XTP that didn't have the jacket peeled back in 6 individual segments either unless is was a MAG version and then it was 4 distinct sections.

 

[dbowling]

I recovered this 240 gr XTP from a hog I shot a few years ago with my Rem. 700 muzzle-loader. No disintegration problems here. Bullet still weighs over 180 grs. Ive never had any issues with the XTP bullet..


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As said that doesn't look to be a XTP, Ive shot lots of them and never seen any look like that after being recovered.

 

[MrTom]

XTPs have a flat base. My money is on that Winchester .44 cal as I have shot those too and recovered a couple. Actually that .44 cal Winchester bullet is a good performer in a couple of my guns. They are a very accurate bullet inside the 100-150 yard theater and they hit hard. I don't think I have ever had track a deer hit with one.