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The National Shooting Sports Foundation, a gun-industry trade group, adjusts the FBI’s figures to filter out background checks unrelated to the sale of a firearm. It reckons that, despite the 39m checks conducted by the FBI in 2020, only 21m guns were actually sold. The true figure is probably somewhere in-between.


from an article in The Economist
 
I learnt looooong ago to stock up on centerfire loading components and .22 rimfire cartridges. I've spent the last ten years or so on the guns I really need versus what I want, and have pared down a very diverse and Large selection of rifles and handguns in many Many MANY different calibers and cartridges down a bunch to a simple to manage "must have" group. I now only load .45-70 and 9mm cartridges. No shotguns. LOTS of .22LR rimfire. And of course a few trad flinters. YMMV.
 
You know now I don't feel so bad about having to drive all the way to Saginaw for those two bottles of black powder that I bought maybe a year ago.

Funny thing I was going to buy one but then a customer walking out the door said just get two you know you're going to want them.

Thank you random customer.
 
Those Blackhorn prices are rediculous!!
I just don’t get how people are actually paying those prices.
My daughters Savage lightweight hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor just loves the Browning BRX ammo. I can’t find it anywhere so for kicks I checked gunbroker. Used to buy it for about $18 per box. Found some on Gunbroker for $140/box. Unbelievable!
 
I took a trip to our local Scheels today to round up some CCI #11 caps for a member here. They had two pegs full of the carded tins at $5.99 each. No Blackhorn but they had several jugs of pyrodex and T7 grainular, both ffg. Pricing on these items didn't see to me to be out of line.

Right now I have plenty of 209 powder, Winchester 209 primers, black and green sabots plain and crush ribs and a half ton of assorted bullets. My plan is to avoid any un-needed shooting just to conserve on the 209 powder but I break ranks ad grab a jug of T7 just to play. My Accura likes the 300 grain, .45 cal XTPs about as much as the .44 cal 300 grainers along with .452 250 grain XTPs and I have a ton of these to mess with just to stay in touch with the rifle. I've got about 180 500 grain .40 cal XTPs for the Kodiak .45 but don't hunt them so I can play with that gun too. My Optima pistol shoots the .44 cal 240 grain XTPs lights out and I have a couple boxes of those too that I no longer hunt with so its not like I can't play and for the T7 if I go that route I'll just burn up the few boxes of CCI shotshell primers I have but won't hunt with.

I'm not any crazier about these shortage issues than the rest of ya'll here but I'm not going to fall into the blame game and finger pointing because there are simply too many elements to this issue.
 
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Plus 1 on powder being relatively normal price. It's sad though I talked to one guy he knew a lot about firearms not much about black powder. Tried to tell me that pyrodex p is good for rifles and pistols he went on to say rifles use three f powder.

I doubt he knows the difference between a black powder substitute an actual black powder.

They had one pack of CCI number 11 caps.
 
I'm not any crazier about these shortage issues than the rest of ya'll here but I'm not going to fall into the blame game and finger pointing because there are simply too many elements to this issue
Sound like a good and honest man.

We don't know of others individual situations and complications. If I needed to have powder for my muzzle loader to participate in that season and I could afford it I would pay what I needed to. Being able to go muzzle loading for deer is priceless to me so I would pay. My attitude would be for X amount of dollars I will get this much pleasure.

I consider my family to be simple. We don't go out to eat much, haven't been to a movie forever, my trout pole is a $20.00 reject from Walmart, my truck has 212,000 on it, my phone is the cheapest one I can get and its 6 years old. And so on. I have a considerable inventory of guns but all are what I call utility grade. Nothing fancy. So if I were in that position to need supplies I would pay the extra money.

The good news is my supplies are quite adequate. But I still look for deals.
 
Up here in AK at Sportsmans and Cabelas the shelves have been empty for months. No muzzy primers at all, they had some musket caps but they finally sold them all. we have blackhorn 209 but the pyrodex and Triple 7 have sold out right away when some came in. I bought a box of 45 cal cast lead bullets for my 45 colt pistol, it was the only reloading components we have seen in over 2 months now.

Powder prices on Gunbroker are highly inflated, but people are still buying it. With all the oilfield layoffs by the new administation I think we are in for some hard times ahead. People in Florida are already complaining of gas prices going up.
 
In Southern VT/NH gas prices have jumped up fifty to sixty cents/gal in the thirty days. I think it's the same all across the country. I run a small fifty-foot, Smallbore/NRA Marksman course for kids. A couple of bricks of .22's ($300 on GB.com today) exceeds the annual budget, if you can find it. I wish the hoarders would stop. You can read all kinds of articles about how mfg's are producing at increased rates - but unless you want to pay through the nose for a caliber "nobody" shoots, there is nothing on any shelves 'round here.
 
If and when that day comes it's not going to happen overnight. Think far future as in not in our lifetimes. when I think of a Nation with no guns particularly America I think the age of Star Trek that far ahead.

I'm sure that is what Australia thought, too.
But what a difference a single law can make.
 

Yeah I've never seen those articles I'll check them out but for me I'm going to stick to the manufacturer's recommendations.
Even though I'm a triple seven man if I ever use that piratex stuff you rest assured it's going to be the Rs or whatever is recommended for my rifle. in my opinion he was giving bad advice.

Maybe one thing for someone to experiment based on some article but for somebody who's working in a retail store I think he should have been more knowledgeable.

And I can't say whether he read the above articles that you cited to spew his information. one can only assume he has either read the articles above and basing his information from that or he was just completely ignorant.

Nowadays when people are wrong I don't try to make them see the right point of view I just sit back and shake my head.

As an example an idiot at my old work said you can smoke marijuana and have firearms. I said really how do you do that? He says well you by the firearm first then you can go home and smoke weed because technically you didn't lie on the 4457.

needless to say after I tried to convince them that that is incorrect he got pretty upset. I believe that was the last time I tried to change somebody's mind. Now I just nod my head like I said and say yeah you must know better than I do.

hey mind you this is the same store that I called a year ago asking for genuine black powder and they said yeah we have it I asked really what kind to have he said no it's p. I have little confidence in the guy behind the counter actually knowing what he's talking about especially at a place like Dunham's. Now my local FFL dealer I believe he's knowledgeable in such things. But you know these guys could have been working at Walmart last week.
 
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You horde you horde shot a little horde some more then you die. Your family gives it all way since they have no interest in it. Or shoots it all up. So what good did all the hording do you what enjoyment did you get from it. Seen it happen twice. One friend got some of it but only what he needs a few box’s.
Me I have a few box’s of everything I use for hunting. Maybe 100 rounds ea. For my competition mybe 1000. And enough reloading supply to replace it for a year or two. For my 22 maybe 5k rounds extra because I shot it w the grand kids. We limit the shooting to 100 rounds per outing.
 
Those Blackhorn prices are rediculous!!
I just don’t get how people are actually paying those prices.
My daughters Savage lightweight hunter in 6.5 Creedmoor just loves the Browning BRX ammo. I can’t find it anywhere so for kicks I checked gunbroker. Used to buy it for about $18 per box. Found some on Gunbroker for $140/box. Unbelievable!
Got my granddaughter savage for Christmas in muddy girl. In 6.5 I’m now loading 6.5 on top of other things.
You should try the hornady. I was able to find 3 different weights. Got 2 box’s of ea
Last 2 box’s I was out in Elkhart Indiana a small shop out there had 4 box’s of 129 and 143 grn took 2 of 129. at $29.00 ea.
I’m impressed w all 3 diffent rounds I bought. I’ve Reloaded 20 rounds w 90 grn. Haven’t tested them yet. Hopping for less recoil for my granddaughter target shooting and coyote.
 

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