Bruce, I'm fairly new here too. Look up videos from two folks, experts actually; IdahoLouis and Bestill Creations. You can find them possibly on youtube & (facebook -for Bestill for sure) I don't have a facebook account per se due to DOJ regs at our agency while I was still working ect. Idaho is a great shot and does a lot of testing and posts on the forum. Use search. Also look into sabotloader