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Actually, the adapter in Ron' pics is the large adapter for using large primers. See photo below.........

Thank you for the clarification. I used the .25 ACP ignition in a NEF 14-15 years ago, because it was better than what was available at the time. I never paid much attention to the VariFlame ignitions. I never bought into the 209 primer pushing the bullet off the charge on anything but slip fit PowerBelt type bullets, like what they say is happening with the Paramount ELR bullet. I do know the rifle and pistol primers are easy on the flame channels and flash holes. I thought they did the small ones in stainless with a full rim at one time for the Tip-Up rifles also? Maybe not?
 
What turned me off on the Paramount was the weight. I'm used to carrying light rifles, and this one is about 2 lbs. heavier than my current muzzleloader, and 4.5 lbs heavier than my CF rifle. Ron, if the fix for the variflame is really as simple as an O ring, why is that such a big issue? Although, as an engineer, I've always been irritated by poor designs.

They could drop the Paramount barreled action in a short action Ridge stock. They may possibly have to open the barrel channel a touch, like they did when they went from the Hunter stock profile to the Ridge, but easily doable. That alone might drop the weight down a pound or two?

That is how I would want it configured. If they did that, I might bite and fix the ignition myself. Still would rather have the fast twist .45 cal barrel in the Accura MR. That's only 6.3 pounds with a .50 cal hole, can't imagine the .45 cal being too much heavier? Maybe 1/4 to 1/2 pound?


Here is what the Ridge Stock looks like on a short action.
B-14_RIDGE.jpg
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https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/b14/ridge-rifle/
 
Thank you for helping me with my difficulties, when i first tried to use o-ring under primer.

You're welcome. I actually thought about looking into a patent, using the o-ring at one time. I never really looked into it as far as digging through patents, or consulting with a patent attorney. I ended up just giving the idea away to help a guy out at Metrics Unlimited that was making breech plugs for the H&R/NEF Huntsman's and Sidekicks. Great shooting rifles with their Green Mountain barrels, but the worst ignition 209 primer carriers ever.

Those MU breech plugs needed something and I had that something to make them essentially blowback free. I had been using the idea in a couple other breech plugs I had for several months prior. One was a custom I had done right after I realized what would work and what would not work for igniting Blackhorn 209, the other was a Breech plug I had Ben Hubbard make up with his Mag-Spark 209 nipple.

I posted about it here when I was testing the MU prototype plug. Then I gave the idea away to everyone here and Western Powders. I was just trying to help out the ones having trouble igniting Blackhorn 209 with leaky primer pockets in their breech plugs.

I used the o-ring breech plugs for hunting that previous fall of 2008, and they worked great. One other added benefit you get with the o-ring that you will never completely get with static metal shims or headspaced primers, is total waterproof through the ignition/breech end for hunting, as long as the primer is installed. There is no denying that this system works. I've done it on all the platforms, except the Knight KRB7. I did, along with a few others help a couple guys figure out how to make it work in their KRB7's, along with some spring mods to allow them to reliably ignite Blackhorn 209. I think one was 22 Hornet, and the other was Shawn? This was like 10 years ago, CRS?

The o-rings work great on the Tip-Ups and Drop Blocks. They can also work on the Knight Bolt Rifles with the NFPJ Conversions if you get the bottom of the primer pocket right and the headspace right. I have one that has been doing it for over 10 years now.
 
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Yup, Me and Hornet22Savage got the KRB7 working. I have since gone a bit farther with a new Breech plug but it too uses an o-ring. It and the previous mods are running in another KRB7 too.
 
I wonder how the Bullet guiding muzzle would affect accuracy if a person wanted to shoot heavy lead. I know with 2 of the TCs I ended up cutting it off cause they wouldn’t shoot conicals .
I guess I would be interested in trying one but the ignition is a factor as others have stated. It is not to my liking. I have an omega that had Cecil’s modules and ended up going back to standard 209
Guess those 2 things are the only 2 holding me back
I also wish the barrel was longer . I would much prefer a 28” personally but could live with the barrel length
 
The BGM (Bullet Guiding Muzzle) in the CVA's is only 1/4" deep, vs close to an inch deep QLA on the T/C's. They are also concentric to the bores on the CVA's, vs T/C's more often than not off center bores and the with all QLA's concentric with the barrel O.D., and not the I.D.

The White funky funnel crown is nearly 1/4" deep. The stepped target crown must be at least 1/8"+?

I'm not fond of the ignition as supplied, but it beats the RFPJ on the Knight Target rifle as supplied, IMO. I don't like either.

Luke and Hank will both probably make a LRMP Module / breech plug conversions.

I don't think it's going to be an issue, as long as you don't go crazy on the Blackhorn with the LRMP. 70 to 90 Volumetric grains under a veggie or wool wad and bullet should do it!
 
I seen one for $863.95. That’s the best price I’ve seen on one. They are a grand everywhere else . I have Cecil’s stupid ignition on an omega . I changed it back so I know I don’t much like the modules but you are right , someone will make a better ignition. Question is when
 
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Luke and Hank will both probably make a LRMP Module / breech plug conversions.

I don't think it's going to be an issue, as long as you don't go crazy on the Blackhorn with the LRMP. 70 to 90 Volumetric grains under a veggie or wool wad and bullet should do it!

My bet is that if Luke creates a breech plug, you can shoot up to the maximum recommended by CVA of BH with no problem.
Send'em fast, send'em flat ;)
 
Busta, keep pushing (hinting to) CVA at every opportunity to put those new .45 1:22" twist barrels on a the MR and possibly the PR as well. Standard or BH209 QRBP would be best. The Paramount is of no interest to me.
 
Busta, keep pushing (hinting to) CVA at every opportunity to put those new .45 1:22" twist barrels on a the MR and possibly the PR as well. Standard or BH209 QRBP would be best. The Paramount is of no interest to me.

UC,

I bent all their ears at least once. Some of them got a double or triple dose for good measure. I'll bet they were happy to see that crazy Michigander leave the building! :D

Nice to see you stop in.
 
Mine shipped from Muzzleloaders last Wednesday. Should be here first of the week.
 
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