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So I'm in a bit of a quandry I'm hopeful you more experienced frontstuffers can help me with. I've got a couple different inlines, and I'd like to get everything set up on one type of powder, BH209, and one type of ignition.
I've got 2 Encore 50 cals. They may be magnums, not that I really think it's a thing. They are both set up to use the 25 ACP cartridge cases, primed with small rifle primers.
I also have 2 old style Remington 700ML's. They've both been converted by Denny's Sporting Goods, in Hubburton, OH, to use 32 ACP brass, I think. I also bought a short action Remington 700 previously converted to smokeless front stuffing off Gunbroker. That particular rifle uses cut down 308 family brass. To round out my herd of Remmys, I just purchased a 700 Ultimate. Unlike all the others I've seen or heard of, this one is blued, and in the Bell and Carlson kevlar/fiberglass stock. The action wears the QPR dealio on the the receiver that I can read with a scanner app on my phone, so I think it is the latest and greatest, after their barrel issues were cleared.
And as if that wasn't enough, I've managed to purchase 2 unfired KRB7's, though they are not really part of my master plan.
So what I'd like to get input on is which ignition system would be the way to go. I've read about the ASG version in many posts here, and I've perused their website. I've also read about the HIS system, and his version of the ASG setup.
I think I'm leaning towards Hanks Precision version of the ASG. I don't think I want screw in primer holders, especially not since I've bought these various rifles for my nephews, and cousins to use while we all hunt together. I think young fingers, in cold weather, in an excited state, isn't the time to be threading in something in a tight space under a scope. However I've never personally used that setup, so if you have and care to share your opinion, please chime in.
 
I have and use both the HIS and the DI screw in modules. I made a magnetic nut driver to install and remove the DI modules. The DI is not ideal for everyone but I like it in my Apex conversion. I also swap between DI and HIS in my bolt gun. ASG is similar to HIS and many use it with good results. You would be well served with any of them that could be applied to the platforms you have.
 
I've never heard of a blued UML. Is the receiver stamped Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader?

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Yes, I've not been able to find any listing for a blued one, either. Not on Remington's website, nor any other.
I'm trying to upload a jpg of the receiver, but I'm getting an error saying the image file wasn't a jpg.
PM me, and I'll email you some pics.

I've never heard of a blued UML. Is the receiver stamped Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader?

Why would you go with the HIS version of the Arrowhead Gen2? It's got a longer flame channel with more volume between primer and powder. Both are undesirable. It's just desperate false marketing to claim there's issues that need fixed.
 
Sorry I didn't answer your question. Yes, the receiver is marked Remington Model 700 Ultimate ML.
As I mentioned it has one of those scannable things engraved into the receiver.
 
I don’t think Hankins has any breech plugs for the older Remington 700ML that use brass modules with LRMP. I believe ASG stocks everything you need, gonna be pricey, but I understand why you want to make everything the same.

Did you buy that Ultimate used? Could be blackened stainless.
 
I did purchase it used. In fact it's still in transit to my local ffl. My shipmates and I discussed the possibility of it having been cerakoted, or similar. It's part of a package deal, with Timney trigger, 2 other breechplugs, 3 plus bags of the Ultimate primed brass, 2 flats of the Remington labeled Barnes 250 grain bullets, the original and a replacement ramrod, and a hard case. The rifle has a picatinny rail on it.
If I could post pictures I'd show what the receiver looks like. Haven't had any luck at it, except bad.
 
Yeah I'm interested in the blue UML as well. Not doubting it, just haven't seen or heard of one. I was thinking if used perhaps someone had it coated or nitrided. Just a thought.

If you're looking for every one of them to be exactly the same ignition, I would recommend either a simple 209 or the ASG LRMP system. Luke is super helpful and great to deal with. As said, it all costs money but once set up you'll be happy. My next rifle as of now will be a UML converted to the ASG Gen2 plug. That's down the road a long ways unfortunately.
 
I've seen many RUM rifles, know many shooters with them, run a site for them, and know the designer of the ignition system personally. I don't know of any actions for a RUM that were FACTORY blued, not even when Remington was working with Ken.
Its.....… likely...……. that someone has made that action to what it is.
On the other hand...………. I've seen some strange ships over the years.
Edit: Busta is likely right.

Side note: Speaking of Ken, he called a week or so ago. Pushing 80, age is catching up with him. Still can carry on though :)
 
Certainly not saying it couldn't have been colored by its previous owner. With the Timney trigger, fiberglass ramrod, and 2 spare breechplugs, someone obviously did some tweeking.
 
Most of your rifles can be set up to shoot BH. Can't speak to the 25 and 32 conversions myself.

I am very familiar with the KRB7's though and they are not BH reliable as is from the box. With some tweaking they can shoot it though and shoot it well. The big problem with the KRB's is the Breech plug and the Rolling Block. These actions are very leaky and that is why they don't ignite BH well even with Hot primers. They need to have an o-ring added to the bottom of the primer pocket to seal the primer. Opening the Flash hole from .029 to .033-034 also helps but it will not fix it by itself. The o-ring is the main thing to seal up the plug. Then they really benefit from a spring change for the block to hold it in battery better to maintain the seal. All of these together will make the rifle BH reliable. I have only read of 1 or 2 rifles that the owner was just able to add the O-Ring and call it good. I was not so fortunate. With the addition of the o-ring it caused the block to be held back and that caused the hammer to strike the top of the Block instead of the firing pin. So the pocket needed to be deepened about .015" to accommodate the o-ring addition. I routinely shoot 120gn V of BH in mine with a Rem STS primer now and no mag primers are needed.

Here is a little reading on it. Sorry about the missing Pics, Blame that on PhotoBucket and the nonsense the pulled.

https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/threads/knight-krb7-powder-questions.19006/
 
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Thanks for the KRB7 reply.
I've read that previously, after I purchased my first KRB7, in camo/stainless. I have a stash of the 4.5/6mm o rings. Where did you get your replacement springs?
Were you the guy deepening the detent hole? If so, did you think it a worthwhile model, or do you think the o ring was more productive?
 
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