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I’m 57 years old and am about to get into muzzloading for the first time. I’m experienced with smokeless breech-loading rifles, but I know very little about muzzleloading.

I’ve been looking at the CVA Optima V2 rifle (nitride, camo), and it seems to be very well received by the muzzleloading community. And the price is right. My plan would be to use Blackhorn 209.

I’ve read so many good things about these rifles, but I’ve also read that blowback can be an issue, and can foul the firing pin unless an after-market o-ring is installed. Yet I see firing pin o-rings for sale on CVA’s web site, which leads me to believe that CVA is now including the o-rings in their CVA muzzleloaders.

I kinda dread the mess and maintenance of muzzleloading, but it would give me 2 more weeks of hunting every year. With Blackhorn powder substitute, I’m hoping the Optima will shoot relatively clean and be easy to clean, compared to other muzzleloaders.

Am I on the right track with the Optima V2?

I don't mind spending more money on a TC, but if the Optima is a good choice, I'd opt for it at half the price.

Thank you.
 
I think you will do just fine. The 209 breech plug is about all that you will need to use Blackhorn powder, and it does clean up real nice. No swabbing after each shot. About every 10 shots or so you need to clean the breech plug with a drill bit to clear the carbon out. As far as the o rings for the primer pocket I still out on that. You will need replacements for the firing pin assembly . but they are easily obtained. I would go with the CVA
 
BuckshotBilly said:
......I see firing pin o-rings for sale on CVA’s web site, which leads me to believe that CVA is now including the o-rings in their CVA muzzleloaders......
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The firing pin o-ring is not the o-ring one uses to reduce blow by. It is for the firing pin bushing. To stop blow by, some place THIS HERE o-ring under the primer to help make a seal.
 
ronlaughlin is absolutely spot on with the blow back issue.
TC is not the great company it once was so I'd look really hard at them before you decide to perches a TC. Warfare as CVA they make some of the most user-friendly and accurate ML available today. Depending on the shooters experience level. My father and I bought matching Accura V2 50cal and with my father's health he just sold his BUT I wouldn't sell mine for anything. We have owned a lot of different name brands and styles of ML And I have to say that my Accura V2 IS the most accurate ML I have ever owned bar none. My favorite cal. Is .45cal so I will be getting one of the Accura V2 LR in .45cal well as soon as I have the extra money that is. Lol
So if I were you I'd look into CVA OR A KNIGHT ...... :lewis:
 
Sorry guys for the triple post this stupid phone of mine. God I need my laptop
 
BuckshotBilly said:
I’m 57 years old and am about to get into muzzloading for the first time. I’m experienced with smokeless breech-loading rifles, but I know very little about muzzleloading.

I’ve been looking at the CVA Optima V2 rifle (nitride, camo), and it seems to be very well received by the muzzleloading community. And the price is right. My plan would be to use Blackhorn 209.

I’ve read so many good things about these rifles, but I’ve also read that blowback can be an issue, and can foul the firing pin unless an after-market o-ring is installed. Yet I see firing pin o-rings for sale on CVA’s web site, which leads me to believe that CVA is now including the o-rings in their CVA muzzleloaders.

I kinda dread the mess and maintenance of muzzleloading, but it would give me 2 more weeks of hunting every year. With Blackhorn powder substitute, I’m hoping the Optima will shoot relatively clean and be easy to clean, compared to other muzzleloaders.

Am I on the right track with the Optima V2?

I don't mind spending more money on a TC, but if the Optima is a good choice, I'd opt for it at half the price.

Thank you.
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You will enjoy MLs so much, whether you get a CVA, Knight, or TC you'll be selling those CFs to pay for yer new addiction. That's just my prediction. Welcome to the best forum on the web.
 
I've owned five of them and all have been great. Never had any problems whatsoever. I have 2 with the nitride barrel and an accura mr with nitride barrel at the moment and never an issue.
 
Well, I ordered and received both a CVA Optima V2 (camo stock & forearm, nitride barrel, scope rail), AND a CVA Wolf (camo stock & forearm, nitride barrel, fiber optic sights).

I've never even shot a muzzle loader, and now I own two. I've got a LOT of work ahead of me before the 2020 deer season opens. But I also have a lot of time.

I plan to mount a scope on the Optima V2. But which scope? I humbly ask for advice.

I plan to leave ALONE the Wolf with fiber optics sights. It will be a 40-50 yard gun max.

Hopefully, the muzzle loader scope recommendation I receive will also be applicable to the Savage 220 slug gun I also just purchased.
 
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I put a Leupold Freedom on my Accura last year and have been very happy with it - great eye relief and very good in low light.
 
BuckshotBilly said:
Well, I ordered and received both a CVA Optima V2 (camo stock & forearm, nitride barrel, scope rail), AND a CVA Wolf (camo stock & forearm, nitride barrel, fiber optic sights).

I've never even shot a muzzle loader, and now I own two. I've got a LOT of work ahead of me before the 2020 deer season opens. But I also have a lot of time.

I plan to mount a scope on the Optima V2. But which scope? I humbly ask for advice.

I plan to leave ALONE the Wolf with fiber optics sights. It will be a 40-50 yard gun max.

Hopefully, the muzzle loader scope recommendation I receive will also be applicable to the Savage 220 slug gun I also just purchased.
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Don't underestimate that Wolf. It's as capable of 100yd shooting as anything else.
 
You can get the VX Freedom or Redfield Revolutions for well under $200. Both have pretty similar specs. Both made in the USA with the same warranty. A nice step up is something in the 2x10x40 range instead of 3x9 but its rather costly vs a 2x7.
 
I am using a Hawke Vantage 3-9X40 IR with AO. Very good glass, light gathering at dawn and dusk and good eye relief.
 
I put cabelas muzzleloader scopes on mine. For 99.00 I haven't been disappointed yet.
 
One thing I have Learned through the years is I have had scope failures from cheap scopes, and at dusk they just don’t perform well compared to better scopes. If I were you I would save up and put better glass on your gun the first time if you can, it will pay off in the long run. You don’t have to spend a fortune either , there are some pretty good deals this time of year.i prefer Leupold myself and they can be had fairly reasonable, check the vx freedom
 
I just dont understand why people will pay $125+ for Chinese glass when you can get USA or Japanese optics for under $200 too. ATM you can get a Rudolf 3x9x40 HD for around $180 made in Japan. VX Freedoms ive seen as low as $175 recently and Redfields around $150. Not to mention Sightron entry level scopes that are a bargain for what you get.
 
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I just dont understand why people will pay $125+ for Chinese glass when you can get USA or Japanese optics for under $200 too. ATM you can get a Rudolf 3x9x40 HD for around $180 made in Japan. VX Freedoms ive seen as low as $175 recently and Redfields around $150. Not to mention Sightron entry level scopes that are a bargain for what you get.
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I think it's a matter of education. I didn't know shite about scopes til 4-5 years ago. I had to do a lot of researching and handled a lot of scopes. Still, I thought Nikon and Leupold were the ultimate in glass. Then i joined up here and heard of brands and models that you just don't see in the bass pro shop catalog. Like the Rudolph you mentioned. I've never heard of that so now i gotta find out about it.
 
Rudolf Optics are a South African brand with offices in the USA but all their scopes are made in Japan. If im price shopping i make an effort to find out where its made. Its right on the box if you are in the store or on the scope. Vortex for example are made all over and i would never even consider one of their Chinese made scopes when you can get a Philippine made scope just as affordably.

The Japanese have made very good optics for ages. Even Nightforce uses many parts made in Japan. Zeiss uses plants in Japan and the glass is really good on those scopes. Weaver has many scopes made in Japan and some are very inexpensive. Saving $50 just does not make sense to me when you can buy glass from sources with a far better reputation of respecting patent laws and trade agreements.
 

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