Another ML accident

A friend from Iowa sent this to me last night..
Not sure where it occurred.
Everyone is safe.
2 Pyrodex pellets and a PowerBelt Arrowlites.
Be careful everyone... especially look after the kids.

Wow! Glad to hear the kid escaped without injury.

THAT.... IMO was caused by an obstruction of some type. They may have seated the bullet, but the bullet could have came off the propellant.
Something doesn't add up ???

I totally agree...This doesn't happen if it is loaded properly and the father wasn't there to know exactly how it was loaded.

Not my intention to point fingers but are you sure that you remembered to check the witness mark? The worst thing at the range is distractions and interruptions.

rangerod said:

Not my intention to point fingers but are you sure that you remembered to check the witness mark? The worst thing at the range is distractions and interruptions.

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This was posted on another forum...

Glad to know the young man walked away without injury. That's a pretty serious barrel blow out. I've never seen a rifle barrel, MZ or center fire, blow like that without some sort of obstruction or over charge involved in the process.

Wow. glad nobody was hurt. I agree....with the barrel end blown up, the only logical thing was an obstruction of some sort

Sometimes a loading jag will stick to the bullet and lift it off the charge. With smokeless and probably blackhorn 209 this would result in a fail to fire. Not saying it is what happened just a possibility.

Something definitely stuck in the muzzle. Double load or something along those lines would have blown the breech end out I would think. Probably short started and forgot to ram. That’s my guess.

Look how the barrel burst....waayyyyy down at the muzzle end. Not even close to the breach.

I’m guessing perhaps bullet stuck to the Jag and came partway up the barrel before it released where it stayed lodged until the gun was fired
That’s the only thing I can think of if indeed all of the other checks and balances were followed

As an old newbie, this scares the $hit outta me.

The bullet most likely migrated up off of the powder charge. Probably stuck to the ramrod tip. Unfortunate, but it can happen if you don't check for it. Powerbelts and other bullets like them are easy to load but that easy loading comes at a price, if they go down easy, they can move up easy too.

Something is Fishy about that, I have a pretty good idea what I feel happened, But I’m not gonna say it since I would be going against what the Guy say’s, and i wasn’t there. I will say that i have NEVER Seen anything like that “Just Happen” out of the Blue

I seen something very similar to this with a Centerfire Rifle many years ago (not quite as bad as this, But close) A good friend of mine Ran up a Large embankment after a Nice Buck that had just crossed an Old Mountain Rd He was on, When he got to the Top he Spotted the Buck, He Pulled up and Shot, The Muzzle of His Barrel looked like a Peeled Banana after the Shot.
No doubt he had stuck something in the Muzzle when he was scrambling up the Large Dirt Embankment, He didn’t think he did? But these things don’t “Just happen“ out of the Blue

gmay said:

The bullet most likely migrated up off of the powder charge. Probably stuck to the ramrod tip. Unfortunate, but it can happen if you don't check for it. Powerbelts and other bullets like them are easy to load but that easy loading comes at a price, if they go down easy, they can move up easy too.

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If you have to push real hard to slide a slightly oversize bullet down the tube, is the bullet more likely to 'stick' to the ramrod and come a little ways back up when removing the ramrod?

gmay said:

The bullet most likely migrated up off of the powder charge. Probably stuck to the ramrod tip. Unfortunate, but it can happen if you don't check for it. Powerbelts and other bullets like them are easy to load but that easy loading comes at a price, if they go down easy, they can move up easy too.

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This is why i PREACH about Bullet fit (Lead Conicals loosening up, and slipping off the Powder Charge) I have spoke of it all through this Forum over the years

I came up with the Idea, and use of 1-40 Alloy to Combat Lead Conicals from Slipping off the Powder Charge. MANY times a Soft Lead Bullet will ”Give up” about halfway or so down the Bore, The Soft Lead Bullet is “Stripping out” in the Riflings as it’s being pushed down, MANY times that Bullet Will be LOOSE when it gets to the Powder, which is NO GOOD

Years ago I shot some plastic tipped bullets of the powerbelt ilk to see how they did for me. On one occasion the rod didn't want to come back up the barrel freely so I did a tap thing and it freed up and slid right out. In checking the jag I found the plastic tip stuck up in the nose of the jag. I turned the rod around and re-seated the bullet but it didn't move and it shot just fine but if a jag can grip a bullet tip like that I can see a bullet coming off the charge. Honestly though, I think the bullet was started but not run down the barrel or the crud in the barrel after two shots using the pellets stopped the bullet mid way unknown to the shooter.

Bad stuff regardless and am happy the shooter was unharmed.

You can tell where the failure occurred and ive only seen one thing that makes it happen like that.