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I wasn’t referring to how to measure powder and shoot. Pretty much a fact that weight will always be more accurate. I am referring to whether or not 70 gr by weight is always equal in power/velocity to 70 gr by weight from any lot.

Has anyone done the experiment that would prove this one way or the other? Pretty simple really: Get 3 lots of BH 209 that differ noticeably in volume to weight per lot. Fire 3 shots from each bottle at 100 grV and compare the velocities. If they are essentially the same, you can stop there...

I have no idea if it will work or not, but with a 2” dot at 200, a rangefinder, and a known holdover for distances up to 200 yrds, it would seem possible. But I won’t know until I try it. And until I need to try it, I don’t want to mess with my existing open sights that are exactly where I want...

“The burn characteristics of smokeless powder are not the same as Black Powder. This is one of the reasons BH209 loads are more accurate if they are weighed on a scale” Again, you speak truth. But the difference in group size out to 100 yards when hunting is insignificant IMO. Those 2-3” groups...

The best reason I have heard to weigh a Blackhorn powder is you don’t waste any! That stuff is the real Black Gold!

All good points. For this boy, who has a 1 power 1 MOA red dot scope instead of crosshairs, I think I could get used to that. Because, like you, his eyes don’t see the front sight on open sights well any more. In fact, he has to wear 1x reading glasses to be able to see only one front sight...

I think you are in good shape as to your original question. That said, muzzleloading can be a lot of work. Weighing powder is more work. If you have time and enjoy it, go for it. It’s more accurate. But I tell every newbie, there is no reason to weigh charges when you first start out. It makes...

I suspect what edmehlig meant to say is that he sights in at 25 yards. Then his statement makes sense. Even for a dummy like me 😁

There is no need to involve any kind of sophisticated ballistics charts for what he wants. If he sights in at 1” high at 50 yards, then tests it at 50 and 100, he will be in the ballpark. He might then have to tweek it up or down slightly.

I have yet to weigh a powder charge and shoot 2-3” groups out at 100 with open sights. I would def not weigh to work up a load. Try several dif amounts of powder and when you find the amount of powder that does the best, then you can weigh if you want to But remember to measure it out in...

I am not quite sure I understand what you are saying; but if you are dead on at 75, don’t see how you would be high at both 50 and 100

Standard is 100 gr powder. Magnum is 150 Keep in mind that triple seven powder is hotter than 100 grains on these charts. 90 grains of triple seven would be about the same as 100 grains on these charts.

I would sight in 1-1.5” high at 50 yards. You will be almost dead on at 100. Never have to think about it again. Just aim and shoot out to 100. Ballistics charts and math gets you on the ballpark. But you have to do the work to see what your gun does.

But every gun/ powder/ bullet combination is different. No reason not to start at 80 gr. He might find a good load at lower powder and save powder and recoil. 95-100 gr of fffg powder would be roughly equivalent to 100-105 gr of ffg powder. I know you guys are using fffg as well but that’s a...

I agree. Start at 75-80 gr and shoot 3 times. Move up 5 gr and repeat the process….. until you find an accurate load and you can stop. I doubt you will have to go above 90-95. Hopefully less.

Developing loads for me is different from tweaking hunting loads. When I try a new bullet or powder or any new combination, I shoot at 25 yards first. If you get a 2” group at 25, no reason to take that load any further. But then I don’t shoot past 200, much less 500 yards.

Know a guy who killed an elk at 275 yrds with 90gr (v) pyrodex P and I believe a 460 gr no excuse bullet.

With either bullet, you will be fine out to 200 yards.

Your Thor load will be deadly up to an elk sized animal. I would probably start the 420s with 70 gr weighed. What animal are you shooting, and how far?

So 100 gr (V) of 777 is roughly equal to 78 gr weight. 120 gr of 777 (V) would be about 94 gr weighted. Since 120 by volume (94 gr weighed) is the max recommended load of 777 in a standard muzzleloader, I would not use over that. When I used 777, I never used over 100 gr volume with a 300 gr...