It's the nature of an open forum and people's personalities. You didn't do anything wrong and your post helped others stock up for this coming season.Didn't intend for my post starting a big uproar just wanted to let you guys know about wally world and Blackhorn powder. sorry if i caused ill feelings.
I couldn't tell you, but, earlier this year I sent an email to customer service at Hodgdon inquiring about when 209 would be available. I got a quick reply and BH started showing up not long after the expected date.Question….How many pounds are produced per Lot # of BH209?
I hate to say but past 100 yards is not considered long distance for black powderThis again is from the perspective of someone that has yet to engage in long distance (over 100 yards) muzzleloading shooting. Nor, yet shot BH209.
From watching threads here, and looking at the cost of BH209 pre-Covid-19, the only way I would consider purchasing it on a regular basis would be in the 5 pound jugs.
Because it was shelf stable, it only made sense to me to save up money to buy the 5 pound jugs as then the price per shot became as reasonable as possible. Compared to black powder, I never saw the price of BH209 as reasonable.
Only if I was going to shoot a scoped inline with all of an its nooks and crannies to clean, would BH209 make any kind of sense to me.
Only, if I absolutely felt that I could not live without the ability to kill at distances equal to a modern scoped centerfire rifle, would the higher cost per shot of BH209 make any sense to me.
Ordinary Goex, or Schuetzen, black powder in ffg & fffg grades, under a patched ball of the proper diameter (.45-.62 caliber), will kill effectively out to 125 yards if the shooter can see to kill at that distance, and if his rifle is equipped with front & rear sights that will allow him to do so.
The same Goex & Schuetzen, ffg & fffg grades of black powder, under lubed lead conicals, will kill effectively out to as far of a distance as a shooter can possibly see with a tang-mounted, vernier rear sight equipped with a Hadley Eyedisc. In conjunction with a front sight compatible with the terrain one is going to hunt in. The only limitations are, again, the quality of the shooter's eyesight, the sights on the rifle, and the shooter's ethics in killing a big game animal at long distance.
If one were willing to put a scope on a sidelock, then the ability to see the 18th/19th Century style sights becomes moot, and the only limitations are the diameter of the patched ball, its weight, and its ability to retain its muzzle velocity out past 100 yards.
A .58 caliber, .60 caliber, .62 caliber, or .66 caliber patched ball in a sidelock equipped with a scope is capable, depending upon the rate of twist, and the subsequent powder charge, of reaching out to 200 yards with sufficient killing power for deer, elk, bear, and moose.
A 1:20" twist, .45 caliber sidelock equipped with a scope, shooting lubed lead conicals, would theoretically be capable of reaching out to 800 yards just like a .45/70 Trapdoor Springfield, or a Sharps Business Rifle.
Utilizing Goex, Graf's, Schuetzen, Olde Eynsford, or Swiss black powders.
At a lower cost per shot than BH209.
We'll have to see what Hogdon does as far as the supply and demand for BH209 is concerned, compared to the previous owner up in Canada. With a yearly increasingly larger demand for BH209, one would think that the company would have just produced enough to satisfy the demand in the United States for it. I can see the big box stores not wanting to keep it in stock seasonally, but the online internet suppliers being allowed to run out on a regular basis made no sense to me at all.
You would have thought that the powder rep for the company would have been calling every single internet seller of BH209 on the regular to keep them well stocked up. Unless, of course, the company deliberately kept the supply short to create an intense demand that would allow them to charge what I consider outrageous prices for a muzzleloading propellant.
I've seen zero indications that this is the case. Much of what I have seen come back in availability has been in line with the pre-covid pricing. The higher prices have been at the hands of gougers....and yes they exist in today's retail and on-line markets. I don't need any BH209 so I am not fretting, however I have seen it personally recently in at least four different stores within Minnesota's boundaries, mainly the Twin Cities and points north of there, and only one store had it jacked [Cabelas]. Its doubtful that Hodgdon would risk getting caught at some unscrupulous marketing ploy as such jacking the wholesale price unevenly between stores or on-line outlets unless those few places ordered far below a minimum quantity to get the product at true wholesale pricing and those places exist and probably pass the extra cost to them right along to the customer.Unless, of course, the company deliberately kept the supply short to create an intense demand that would allow them to charge what I consider outrageous prices for a muzzleloading propellant.