If your rifles r such pieces of junk send them back. I sent a accura back gave me full refund. They stood by it. Bought it from muzzleloader.com good people. Very religious. There is atleast 2 very accurate paramount rifles. The one I have and the one Barry won friendship with. My rifle has a very nice bore. It's just a sabot barrel. Just like a mountaineer I have in .45. That knight has just as loose a barrel. The paramount is a slightly bigger but not enough to say it's really worse. I mean they're both 453ish. You can load same sized bullet if you just want to push harder. I size to the right fit for each. You guys r gonna mess around and there gonna stop making these .45 and .40 bolt guns. Just like we killed the .45 in the past and made the .50 king. Well it ain't king anymore. Your gonna find out in a few years that they just went back to what people bought and where fine with. Go ahead make out like I'm full of crap. I got think skin. And I've seen 50 years of marketing. If you hate cva so bad just don't buy them. I bet most of the guns out there have loose bores if they are mass production guns. Hec it's always been that way. It why no one wanted to make sabotless rifles. But custom gun makers. Trying to get a company to listen to what u want and like is one thing. Some of you guys just take it to far. Cut the damn things up with a shop saw and mail it to them. That will make a statement they can't miss. Stick a letter in with it. There obviously no good to you as they r . So just let em know your never buying another cva product wash your hands of them put on your boots and go by a woodsman r a traditions r t/c used. I've bought some very expensive things that didn't work out. And have to ex wives that wanted to bleed me dry. They're are alot have happy cva buyers. Just like there's unhappy night buyers. Yous just don't seem to get what lm trying to say. You just want to lash out at a company cause you think they screwed you. There not out to do that. No long term money in it. And cva is wanting to stay in business in a economy that sucks. So send the hate mail. This old man has been around the block. I've seen many products that could of been great just shit canned because of this stuff. So now throw me off of here and have a good laugh. I doubt many of you really know what it is to be screwed in a big money venture. These gun companies do. Remington went bankrupt. They're trying and I hope they keep it up.