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rusticbob

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Has anyone ever shot , or any feedback on a company out of NH called Woodmans Arms? Looks like a nice well made muzzleloader, but not cheep at $800. Anyone have any experience with them?
 

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He’s a member here. He makes a very well made quality firearm. :lewis:
 

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I had one for awhile, I thought I’d love it but I didn’t. They are very well made in the sense that the fit of everything is first rate but the style is rather plain and crude. They are very light, which is nice except the recoil is somewhat more substantial. They are supposed to be extremely corrosion resistant but I didn’t really subject mine to anything that would test that claim.
 

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MtMonkey has at least one. Perhaps he will chime in here to add some additional perspective on the Woodman Arms Patriot.
 

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I have a pair of the rifles the 24 and 18 twist, I love both of them,,first two muzzleloaders I decided to keep,, let me clarify that statement, I'm not a gun collector I tend to keep guns only when I'm using them and shooting them often, when I quit shooting a rifle ,,not long after that I usually trade it sell it or get rid of it,, my two woodmen brake actions are staying in the family!! Do I have nicer rifles ,?well I've got some custom guns smokeless etc that cost a lot more but I consider the woodsman's arms a good investment, a quality product and an accurate durable gun . I plan on buying another one in the future and keep an eye on what that company produces. Both my rifles shoot less than an inch with several different loads.
 

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I like the breech plug in both the rifles that I have it's not that different from any other common breech plugs, it does require a wrench it doesn't just screw in by hand , I like that more, the 24 twist is a McGowan that I have the 18 is a Brux barrel, he offers both,, I don't know of another lightweight factory rifle that you can get a brux barrel or a McGowan in, and Mark at huntsman rifles works with you and gives great support,, he has an adjustable breech plug I think on the rifles that he's building this year it allows the user to adjust for whatever 209 primer the shoot the shooter is using pretty cool I think!!
 

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I like the breech plug in both the rifles that I have it's not that different from any other common breech plugs, it does require a wrench it doesn't just screw in by hand , I like that more, the 24 twist is a McGowan that I have the 18 is a Brux barrel, he offers both,, I don't know of another lightweight factory rifle that you can get a brux barrel or a McGowan in, and Mark at huntsman rifles works with you and gives great support,, he has an adjustable breech plug I think on the rifles that he's building this year it allows the user to adjust for whatever 209 primer the shoot the shooter is using pretty cool I think!!
MM, if you had to choose only one of your patriot rifles which one would you choose and why. Very interested in your hands on experience with the WOODSMAN rifles. Thank you..
 

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I would choose the 24 twist McGowen barrel, I get a little bit better group out of the Brux barrel but at 28 in it's just not quite as quick to aim,, I like to hunt all day a lot and I'll sit for an hour or two and get up and slowly creep a half of Mile maybe set another hour or two the older I get the more I really love a quick handling quick to point lightweight rifle,, and I sure don't mean to criticize the longer Brux, that rifles very nice I have a 6 ft 3 son that I think it's going to fit him perfectly but I'm just too short on 5'9 150 lb runt so I like the smaller 24-in barrel ergonomically it just fits me better,,, I think you should get both if you can't afford them both in one year get the longer barrel one the next year or vice versa,,, you'll like both rifles you can't go wrong with either
 

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1-24 is a very good "all around twist" for a 45cal. Not great for really long bullets but a little more sabot friendly than a 1-18. Should be a great twist for a 200-225gr 40cal in a sabot and maybe upto the 240gr Fury or PR bullets. In that light of a rifle huge conicals are not likely gunna be much fun to shoot but i bet it will shoot a 350-400ish grain just fine.

Not much i dont like about the Patriot. He uses great material for the receiver and breech plugs. Its not pot metal zinc alloy garbage and the plugs are 17-4 SS which imo is about the best SS for that application. Brux is the better barrel of the 2 offered but its also a 6 land. Not 100% sure on the McGowen but they used to offer a 8 land ML barrel. 8 land imo is better for sabots since you can index 2 lands per sabot petal. Brux is better if you want to size 45cal bullets and shoot sabotless. They are cut rifled and very uniform from end to end.

If it was my money i would see if you could custom order a Brux 1-20.
 

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Thank you Gm. You are a walking encyclopedia. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us that have questions..👍👍
Hello GM. WOODMANN are out 12-15 weeks. Night ultralite are only available in western version. Can i convert that into a 209? And would the breech be almost water proof, as we hunt in alot of snow?
 

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Night ultralite are only available in western version. Can i convert that into a 209? And would the breech be almost water proof, as we hunt in alot of snow?
Yes it requires a bolt housing and a breech plug swap. You can either get a bare primer bolt body and Lehigh plug or a FPJ bolt body plus the adapter and a plug. Takes minutes to swap parts around. The bolt internals are interchangeable without tools.

Any newer Knight (DISC BASED) bolt assembly should fit. Mountaineer, Ulite, Extreme, ect. Minor fitting might be needed if using the NFPJ adapter but its pretty simple.
 

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I thank you all for your feedback. I decided to order a Woodman Patriot in Walnut. I have no problem waiting for a quality, American made rifle. I have 4 other Muzzleloader’s I can shoot and hunt with while I wait, all American made, all good shooters. T/C 54 Renegade, T/C Pennsylvania Hunter in .50, T/C Triumph and a Knight Wolverine.
Why do I want another rifle? If you are reading this you probably know the answer.
 

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It appears the McGowen 45 1-24 is a 6 groove also. Not sure why he chose that over the well proven 8 groove 1-22 used for years in MLII conversions. I guess its possible he can get them in 8 groove too but its not listed on the McGowen website.
 

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As much as I want a big bore flintlock hunting rifle, I think I will stick with on of the Woodman Arms Patriot break-action muzzleloading rifles.

First, and foremost, is the all-up weight without sights, or scoped, in .45 caliber. Which is 5.5 pounds.

Second, is Woodman Arms' willingness to semi-custom modify a Patriot rifle, a long as the customization fits within their production schedule.

They will order other colors in laminated wood, upgrade the quality of the walnut, shorten the length of pull by as much as 1", or change the rate of twist in the barrel (as long as Brux, or McGowen, makes a blank with the rate of twist that you desire).
 

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Brux can cut pretty much whatever you want. Thats the advantage of single point CUT rifling. Button rifling requires a button for that specific twist. Among the SML guys, the Brux 45 1-20 is pretty much the standard now days. Im not sure i see any advantage in a 1-18. The MGM Encore smoker barrels are 1-20 and shoot just fine with 300gr land riders.

McGowen does still offer a .450x.458 1-22 8 land. That barrel and the .401 240gr Fury should be a nasty little combo if you want to shoot sabots too. I would think 2100fps would be no problem.
 

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