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ENCORE50A

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FYI..............

Just in case anyone might be purchasing a firearm that will require a 4473, you might want to consider your purchase long prior to when you might need or want it.

Due to the many things going on in the country, firearm sales have went through the roof and in doing so, its backed up the Federal approvals.

Here in MI, if you have a CPL, you used to be able to just walk into a sports shop and the CPL gave you immediate approval. Of course if you were purchasing a handgun, you were still required to register it after the purchase.

Then back on March 3rd, the Feds took that option away from MI, all because the Michigan State Police were being what the Feds called, 'Sloppy with record keeping'. So in MI, since March 3rd, you could no long use your CPL and were required to pass the Federal background test. Some suggest that this nit-wit governor we have may have suggested the MSP be a little sloppy????

I needed something to replace an air rifle for vermin, so I decided on a Ruger 10/22 and Vortex scope. Well I found out that I was about 34th on the list at the sports shop that had been called in. Seems that the Feds, instead of checking all information from a single store, decided that they'd only do up to 10 at a single time, checking for approval. I checked with the store yesterday and they received 10 approvals, no more. So I'm on my 9th day of waiting for approval even with a CPL. The store tells me that the Feds have been approving just 10 a week so it may be awhile.

What may be happening in your state may vary, but with all the firearms being sold, I've heard the increase was over 500%, make sure you purchase well prior to your need.
 

brucebuilds

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You make a good point. The feds removed Michigan CPL holders from NICS exemption largely because the State police were issuing CPLs to marijuana users, even though under state law the use was legal. We have the same situation in Arizona, and there are many other states with the same conflict between state and federal law. I have the feeling that Michigan is a test case for the Feds. If they did it there they may be thinking of doing it everywhere.
 

Idaholewis

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What a JOKE to have to go through!! I use to have problems getting through the NICS System, I would get Delayed EVERYTIME i purchased a Gun, Even with a CPL in Wa State. I ended up going through the System and obtaining a UPIN # (unique personal identification number) This was a BLESSING, I have only been Delayed 1 time in well over 10 years with this UPIN #, and that was just a couple years ago when they went to the Computerized System, instead of Calling in. The Dealer had went through the Computer System on this Purchase, He Explained that i had been Delayed, I was like??? I asked him if he could Call them and actually talk to someone like they use to do? He said yes, But that the Computer System was designed to Speed things up, and That “Hold times” on the Phone could be RIDICULOUS at times. Anyway, The Dealer agreed to Call me in even though i had just been Delayed through the Computer, Within 5 minutes i was Walking out the Door with my Rifle
 

John carter

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In okla. I have been delayed at every single purchase. This has gone on with every purchase. I have a common name ... John Carter. I have been told that is the reason. I have been delayed at a gun show and my wife was approved in minutes at the same show. Having a concelled cary permit does not help
 

jlynch75

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I worked in a gun shop for about 5 years and found most people with very common names got delayed. You can call the ATF and they will send a form (forgot number) you fill out and send it back, will fix the problem.
 

fng

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Didn't have any problem whatsoever here in Virginia yesterday. Was pretty close to instantaneous.
 

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