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  1. Dec 28, 2019 #161

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    I wouldnt call them junk but i hate their BDC with the circles. Ive got a old Omega 3x9x40. The 5" of relief can make it harder to mount on some rifles like my Super DISC. The Black line have a more typical 4-3.6" of relief and tactical style BDCs. Nikon had so few Nikoplex models to choose from. That would be my main complaint. They used that stinking BDC on nearly everything.

    When i look at a $700 Black series made in the Philippines, i got to wonder why it cost so much. There are many good $700 Japanese made scopes and Nikon is a Japanese company. Sightron makes all their upper end models in Japan and owns the plant in the Philippines for the lower end models too. SWFA SS 3x15x42 FFP is around $700 and made at one of the better plants in Japan. Upper end Weavers can be had for the same and made at the Light Optical Works plant. So you can see why i just wont pay what they are asking even at half off. Its not about junk or not...Its about the value for my dollar and other scopes that have a great track record for durability for the same money.
     
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    Yep, A deal indeed. Bought one a couple of weeks ago out in UT.
    Hell of a deal.
     
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    Wow the warehouse sold out fast. They still have some left in stores. Mine shipped out of Cali yesterday so it should be here Friday. Other than the odd reticule this is exactly the kind of scope i wanted.

    2x10....I really like 2x for low and moving upto a 2x10 gets somewhat expensive.
    Nice HD glass
    Around 16oz
    3.8" of eye relief

    Best of all. A $1000 MSRP scope with a street price around $800 for $350 shipped is flat out killer. :D
     
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    Wow your reticle measures a wopping 174cm. BIG scope! LOL

    X2 0n the scope I've been looking for.
    For the price agreed. I can live with the reticle too.

    I do like a side focus though.
    Got my eye on Athlon Midas HMR 600A 2.5-15 x 50 for future purchase.
    I generally stay away from relatively new brands.
    Hope I'm not disappointed if I pull the trigger on it.
     
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    The HD LH 3x15x42 has the side focus but its also still over $800. I wanted this scope for my NULA mainly. Eye relief is nearly the same as my Redfield and its a 1" so i wont need new Talley rings/bases. Ive got 2 rifles with the same Redfield 2x7s on them. Both are light weight rigs and finding a light 2x10 with good glass does not leave you with many options. They get very expensive fast. Most are way out of my price range. My eyes are not getting any better and the 7x was beginning to push it at 150yds. Thats about as far as im comfortable shooting with them. So the scope is ideal other than the reticle. IMO its a much nicer scope than the Viper HS 2.5x10x44 and i dont have the added cost of a set of 30mm rings.

    That Viper though is a good deal when Midway has the $249.99 sales on them. They have the 4x16x44 V-Plex on sale now for $299.99. Its just not much better than my DB HP 3x12x42.
    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020880099?pid=183809

    I about died when i saw that price. I sat there for several minutes with my finger on the "complete transaction" button. All my info filled out and everything. Hit the button finally and it eventually errored. Then i realized i had to add my middle initial to the card name. Checked back today and you cant order one online anymore. :D In store only now and there are none near me.
     
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    Its been overcast since i got it and i got to say this scope is really bright. Reticle is very very sharp without any focus adjustment. Eye relief seems like its larger than advertised and seems constant from min to max. The surface coating on the scope is very hard. All adjustments are tight to the point i had to work them a bit to make them comfortable.

    Cons
    Clicks are not very clicky because its so tight right now.
    Center crosshairs and vertical post are finer than i prefer.
    No V-Plex option on any Razor.

    Pros
    Exactly what i wanted other than the reticle.
    Much cheaper than anything else in its class/mag range. I would have loved a Minox ZA-5 HD when they blew them out for $350 but they are no longer around.
    [​IMG]
     
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