No Excuses 45/40 sabots

[LBAhunter]

Has anyone tried these?

https://www.muzzleloading-bullets.com/product/45-caliber-sabots-flat-based/

 

[JeffB1961]

i was gonna ask about these ........
also interested in thoughts/experiences with the boat tails .

https://www.muzzleloading-bullets.com/product/50-caliber-sabots-boat-tail-based/

 

[I beagle]

I shot the coyote and the small buck this year with the same gun and bullet. The boat tail bullet in the yellow sabot from no excuses. Out of a cva optima v2 .50 pushed with either 110 or 105 gr volume of blackthorn. They shoot good out of this gun and they kill also.

 

[MrTom]

The 250 grain flat base has my attention.

 

[bulletbusiness]

We thought the boat tail (rebated base) was really gonna be a giant step up in ballistics and accuracy but realized after some time at the range that they were very similar to the flat base sabots. Any differing experience out there?

 

[ENCORE50A]

Boat tail bullet give no advantage over flat base bullets in muzzleloaders.

 

[snapbang]

I have my order in for the 45/40 sabots. Got the 225 grain version. Ill be shooting them over the next few months. Ill let you know.

 

[Charger1]

Has anyone tried these?

https://www.muzzleloading-bullets.com/product/45-caliber-sabots-flat-based/

I have the 225 gr. that I will try this spring of 2023. I have the Accura MR-X .45. Not sure if I will use the blue crush in my MZ. It my be to Loose for that MZ but may go with MMP sabot.

 

[eekjellander]

We thought the boat tail (rebated base) was really gonna be a giant step up in ballistics and accuracy but realized after some time at the range that they were very similar to the flat base sabots. Any differing experience out there?

I actually do well in my 50 CVA v2 pistol using Harvester Black sabot loaded with my cast pure lead 45 maxi ,and shot well for some others on this site that I've given some to /Ed

 

[LBAhunter]

I was gonna try the 225gr as a youth deer load.

 

[LBAhunter]

I looked at these also
https://www.gtbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=44

 

[eekjellander]

I looked at these also
https://www.gtbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=44

I looked at these also
https://www.gtbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=44

Speaking of 401 cast These in the 290 gr version are wicked accurate @ 200 yds in a Optima v2

 

[snapbang]

LBA, I have used a couple GT bullets and they were excellent. Accurate, inexpensive, and very effective. 3 DRT, 1 to 40 yards, 1 to 100 yards. I have a good inventory and plan on using them regularly in the future. But every now and again I need to try something different.

 

[edmehlig]

Speaking of 401 cast These in the 290 gr version are wicked accurate @ 200 yds in a Optima v2

Do you use them as they cast or do you have to size them?

 

[eekjellander]

Do you use them as they cast or do you have to size them?

As cast (perfect) , I do not size anything cast with pure and they weigh 300 exactly , Tom makes great molds and @ 20-1 closer to the 290 gr but irrelevant with sabot . I got the 40-225M 1st but wanted more weight , if interested you could get it delivered for $75.00 as I'm staying with the heavier for hunting/Ed

 

[Patched]

As cast (perfect) , I do not size anything cast with pure and they weigh 300 exactly , Tom makes great molds and @ 20-1 closer to the 290 gr but irrelevant with sabot . I got the 40-225M 1st but wanted more weight , if interested you could get it delivered for $75.00 as I'm staying with the heavier for hunting/Ed

I bought 200 gr sabot NoE bullets for 45 cal barrel…they shoot very well in my 1st generation CVA Optima, actually extremely accurate…but I drew an elk tag so wanted a heavier bullet.
I chose a 240 gr pure lead sabot bullet and made a 1 shot kill on 340 bull at 83 yds.

I’m addressing eekjellander here only to point out that 240gr bullets should have a flatter trajectory and plenty of punch for deer and elk…shot placement is critical with muzzleloaders…we don’t get the benefit of any hydrostatic wounding...so while 300grs might plow through a bone we hoped to not hit, too much is given up in flatter trajectory for a better shot placement.
my 6 cents worth….

 

[eekjellander]

I bought 200 gr sabot NoE bullets for 45 cal barrel…they shoot very well in my 1st generation CVA Optima, actually extremely accurate…but I drew an elk tag so wanted a heavier bullet.
I chose a 240 gr pure lead sabot bullet and made a 1 shot kill on 340 bull at 83 yds.

I’m addressing eekjellander here only to point out that 240gr bullets should have a flatter trajectory and plenty of punch for deer and elk…shot placement is critical with muzzleloaders…we don’t get the benefit of any hydrostatic wounding...so while 300grs might plow through a bone we hoped to not hit, too much is given up in flatter trajectory for a better shot placement.
my 6 cents worth….

300 gr Light for me ,usual starts @ 400gr .I'm getting to like the 300 cause at my velocities under 16-1700 fps the furthest these get used at is 200 max/more like 100-150 yds and deer ain't 200Lbs more like 120/see where this is going? Over 90lbs I have in the back of my mule (Kawasaki)there resides a hatchet and it ain't for chopping cherry trees , lesson learned killin caribou

 

[Patched]

300 gr Light for me ,usual starts @ 400gr .I'm getting to like the 300 cause at my velocities under 16-1700 fps the furthest these get used at is 200 max/more like 100-150 yds and deer ain't 200Lbs more like 120/see where this is going? Over 90lbs I have in the back of my mule (Kawasaki)there resides a hatchet and it ain't for chopping cherry trees , lesson learned killin caribou

I’m in Nevada…lots of open country and dead silence, shots tend to be towards the 150-200yd range…which I consider the limits of my muzzleloaders…I watch videos of long range shooting at known distances…as impressive as it is, field hunting conditions is another story.

 

[LBAhunter]

LBA, I have used a couple GT bullets and they were excellent. Accurate, inexpensive, and very effective. 3 DRT, 1 to 40 yards, 1 to 100 yards. I have a good inventory and plan on using them regularly in the future. But every now and again I need to try something different.

I'm thinking you would have to slow them down to smoker speeds (<2000) too keep them from fragmenting. Even at those speeds, it may still come apart.

 

[LBAhunter]

I have my order in for the 45/40 sabots. Got the 225 grain version. Ill be shooting them over the next few months. Ill let you know.

I'm thinking probably the same thing about these as the GT bullets.