Idaholewis
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52Bore said:Idaholewis said:Thank you Rick, It ABSOLUTELY AMAZES me that they were doing this stuff in the 1800s, Everytime i sit down and Start Cutting Papers, and Wrapping Bullets, I think about it. Do you know when there abouts they first Started Paper Patching? I’ve heard Late 1800s, Any history would be Neat to ad here! I LOVE my Paper Patched bullets52Bore said:Good video, there's a lot of history behind PP..
I've never read when or who it is accredited to, but I would say 1840's because the Whitworth trials/experiments occurred during the early 1850's for the British Gov't.
Rick, I copied this from another forum
I have been trying to narrow down who exactly first conceived of using paper patch bullets in metallic cartridges as there is a huge gap between when Sir Jos. Whitworth decided to paper patch his hexagonal slugs for his eponymous muzzleloading rifle and their appearance in cartridges sometime around approx. 1870. I think the answer may be someone whose name we all have heard of: Hiram Berdan. The Berdan I Rifle (1868) used "A lubricated paper wrapped .42 caliber bullet in a brass case." Interestingly, Berdan was using brass at this early date. The earliest Remington RB Military Rifle chambered for anything larger than pistols ctgs. was the 12.17×42mm RF for Sweden & Norway and used a grease groove bullet. The .43 Spanish was not adopted by Spain until 1870. The facts are that Hiram Berdan first utilized paper patch bullets starting in 1868. The rifles were made by Colt ironically as Berdan was an engineer and not a manufacturer. These were sold to Russia.
Ironically, the .42 Berdan held 77 gr. of BP and the patched bullet weighed approx. 386 gr. It would appear that for whatever reason this caused an avalanche of outright copying in that the .43 Spanish of 1870, Sharps .44-70 (initial loading) & the .43 Mauser of 1871 are practically identical. Berdan, aside form his Civil War fame, was an incredible engineer who had made a fortune on patents allowing him the luxury to dabble in firearms.
http://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain.h ... rdan.htm&1
http://www.militaryrifles.com/russia/RBerdan1.htm