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Bushfire

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One of these has come up for sale in 58 BP, anyone know much about them or their reputation? Can't seem to find a lot online about them. One review I read though wasn't overly flattering in relation to their accuracy.

I still haven't bought another BP yet as there has been nothing in the country but this one second hand is a similar price to a brand new hawken hunter 50 BP.

 
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One of these has come up for sale in 58 BP, anyone know much about them or their reputation? Can't seem to find a lot online about them. One review I read though wasn't overly flattering in relation to their accuracy.

I still haven't bought another BP yet as there has been nothing in the country but this one second hand is a similar price to a brand new hawken hunter 50 BP.

I am not Familiar with that particular Rifle? But With it being a Pedersoli i would bet on it being a Nice, Quality Gun :lewis: The .58 Caliber in 1:48 Twist Should Shoot a BIG Heavy Bullet Really well. And it being a Double Rifle it would make a DANDY BIG, Dangerous Game STOPPER, Such as those Water Buffalo you speak of :lewis:
 

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I am not Familiar with that particular Rifle? But With it being a Pedersoli i would bet on it being a Nice, Quality Gun :lewis: The .58 Caliber in 1:48 Twist Should Shoot a BIG Heavy Bullet Really well. And it being a Double Rifle it would make a DANDY BIG, Dangerous Game STOPPER, Such as those Water Buffalo you speak of :lewis:
The only two things playing on my mind are regulation of the barrels and probably more pressing availability of projectiles. I'm not aware of many at all still made for a 58 that's available to me over here.

Buff are on the mind when I think of it for sure!
 

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I don't know anything about them either. The little bit that I did read, said that they're dang heavy at almost 11 pounds.
I personally wouldn't want to tote one in the woods.
 

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I passed on a couple of them because the write ups all mention the fact that they aren’t really regulated. Each barrel is pretty accurate but the lack of regulation limits them to about 50 yards if you need to fire both barrels.
 

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Thank you gentleman, you've helped convince me to stick to the idea of a single barrel.

Now to decide whether to wait until February for a 50 cal or take the one 54 cal available in Aus at the moment. Both pedersoli hawken hunter, both have a 1:24 twist (which I thought was interesting for a 54).

Any suggestions on the two would be appreciated.
 

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I'm a big fan of the 50 mostly because its the most popular caliber which means there is a huge selection of bullets available. With a 1:24 twist I tend to believe you can shoot any size bullet you want depending on the game your after and it sounds like in your case "dangerous game" you could use the 600 grain bullets available or in my case where Whitetail the are on the menu 3-400 grain bullets. The 54 would work also but your more limited to bullets available. Quite frankly a fast twist 45 would probably do anything you needed to do after all no-one really knows how many of Bison( American Buffalo)were taken out with that caliber but again it just doesn't have the same following as the 50.
 

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Doc White put out a book years ago and here are some picture of large game taken with the 45,50 and 54 caliber muzzleloaders. Even though the book has long out of print all this same information can be found on his website.Yes I know my tablet doesn't take the best pictures.
 

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I'm a big fan of the 50 mostly because its the most popular caliber which means there is a huge selection of bullets available. With a 1:24 twist I tend to believe you can shoot any size bullet you want depending on the game your after and it sounds like in your case "dangerous game" you could use the 600 grain bullets available or in my case where Whitetail the are on the menu 3-400 grain bullets. The 54 would work also but your more limited to bullets available. Quite frankly a fast twist 45 would probably do anything you needed to do after all no-one really knows how many of Bison( American Buffalo)were taken out with that caliber but again it just doesn't have the same following as the 50.
Realistically, the buffalo I'm going to hunt will highly likely be the only one at least for the foreseeable future. Most of my hunting will be reds and sambar which for arguments sake are elk sized game. So you make valid points in that regard.
 

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Doc White put out a book years ago and here are some picture of large game taken with the 45,50 and 54 caliber muzzleloaders. Even though the book has long out of print all this same information can be found on his website.Yes I know my tablet doesn't take the best pictures.
Wow, never had heard of anyone taking an elephant with a 54, that's impressive.
 

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I took a some better pictures telling more about these larger bullets in the 45,50and 54 caliber.
It kind of throws mud in the face of general online talk about requirements for large calibres. I didn't know much about the 54 so did a bit of reading and quite often found reference to 50s not being enough if you're chasing elk. I've shot maybe 6 reds with mine and they're about the size of an elk cow, all one shot kills varying from broadside to frontal shots. Was wondering if I had just got lucky there for a bit.

This forum (and IDlewis especially) have really convinced me of the merit in casting your own. Being realistic it just isn't going to happen for me at the moment though, someday.
 

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I don't know anything about them either. The little bit that I did read, said that they're dang heavy at almost 11 pounds.
I personally wouldn't want to tote one in the woods.
If it wasn't 11 LBS I don't think it would get much trigger time ,at least at my house/Ed
 

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A lot of it come down to bullet selection , time you spend with your Firearm and honing your shooting skills.

There is a lot of misinformation out there. When the 357 Magnum was introduced in 1934 it was considered the greatest thing since sliced bread and lots of game was taken with it including Whitetail deer ,Carbou , Elk , Moose and even Bear but now if you even think of entering the woods with anything less than a 454 Casual you are simply under armed. Its funny I've taken Whitetail deer with the 357 magnum , 41 magnum and the 44 special and could never tell the difference from one to another. No doubt there may be better choices with really big game but you don't always have to have the biggest gun either.
 

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A lot of it come down to bullet selection , time you spend with your Firearm and honing your shooting skills.

There is a lot of misinformation out there. When the 357 Magnum was introduced in 1934 it was considered the greatest thing since sliced bread and lots of game was taken with it including Whitetail deer ,Carbou , Elk , Moose and even Bear but now if you even think of entering the woods with anything less than a 454 Casual you are simply under armed. Its funny I've taken Whitetail deer with the 357 magnum , 41 magnum and the 44 special and could never tell the difference from one to another. No doubt there may be better choices with really big game but you don't always have to have the biggest gun either.
My wife's uncle who lives up in the northeast kingdom of Vermont, only ever deer hunted with his trusty 41 magnum pistol.
He took a lot of deer with that gun.
 

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It really comes down to using the right tool for the job. The 357 does great in the right hands /yardage and animal stance ,if it becomes further yardage / animal moves /shooter exceeds his skill level then yeah bigger can make up the difference ,and the bonus is a bigger hole is always bigger ! A 22 kills but is always limited to those conditions mentioned , hunting or self defense assuming the shooters skill is up to the task means using the right tool equals more meat /survival /Ed
 

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Your spot on, I've spent a lot of time practicing with open sighted revolvers out to 100 yards but made a decision a long time ago that I was only going to use one in the field at 25 yards or less range. With this philosophy I could probably get away with hunting Whitetails with a 38 special.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say the dangerous game Bushfire is after will be taken at the 75 yard or less range making both the 50 & 54 caliber Pedersoli he is looking at totally up to the job with the right loads.
 

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Ive only taken skwirls and targets with my Ruger Old Army bp revolver. But in the right situation it would kill whitetails. But not by me.
 

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