Ruger Old Army

[Freedom]

I actually us SPG lube over the xtp's and it is pretty stiff for grease. So no, I have not had any problems with the bullets jumping forward and tying up the revolver during recoil since switching to SPG. And the SPG really stays put over the bullets, unlike Bore-Butter/Wonderlube or lamb tallow mix..

The biggest problem with the heavy 250gr .452 XTP is that they hit quite high. I don't know if I even have enough velocity to get expansion with them, as I have not shot any deer (ect.) with them. But I am getting about 30gr of 3f Olde Eynsford under them. I suppose that 777 would raise my velocity some(?)

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I actually us SPG lube over the xtp's and it is pretty stiff for grease. So no, I have not had any problems with the bullets jumping forward and tying up the revolver during recoil since switching to SPG. And the SPG really stays put over the bullets, unlike Bore-Butter/Wonderlube or lamb tallow mix..

The biggest problem with the heavy 250gr .452 XTP is that they hit quite high. I don't know if I even have enough velocity to get expansion with them, as I have not shot any deer (ect.) with them. But I am getting about 30gr of 3f Olde Eynsford under them. I suppose that 777 would raise my velocity some(?)

Those xtp's are supposed to have IDEAL performance from 800-1600 fps. I bet you are very close to that minimum with 30gr of powder. Only a chrony will show fer sure. You should set up something like RonLaughlin does and see what you get at 25yds and maybe 50 even. Im taking mine out to the farm this weekend to shoot some dif loads and some 45LCs in a conversion cylinder.

 

[MSalyards]

I use Kik 3f but do load down a bit from you guys. Also I use a thin leather wad( think chap leather) over the powder, then a pea sized drop of lube, followed by the bullet/ball. NEVER a had chain fire. And I've fired up to 60 shots without having to clean the gooey mess that you get putting lube over the bullet.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I use Kik 3f but do load down a bit from you guys. Also I use a thin leather wad( think chap leather) over the powder, then a pea sized drop of lube, followed by the bullet/ball. NEVER a had chain fire. And I've fired up to 60 shots without having to clean the gooey mess that you get putting lube over the bullet.

Yeah covering the bullet does "nicely lube" everything doesnt it.

 

[MSalyards]

I found it on the youtube and tried it and never looked back.

 

[Boston Bill]

Mo gooey mess with the Bore Butter. But the SPG does sound like a more efficient lube. Am definitely going to try it.

 

[MSalyards]

This is the only thing I use the wonder lube - bore butter for.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I just got back from shooting mine at the farm. I only shot 6 rounds that i put a homemade lube over the bullets. And a box of .45LC in a kirst konverter. The homemade is parrafin and beeswax and vaseline. Not near as messy as the bore butter was. Still makes cleanup a bit more ... messy.

 

[Boston Bill]

imho, this is the best way to get into BP pistols right here...
EMF Company, Early Modern Firearms Company - EMF Company - EMF Company, Inc.

Do you know if they ever have the 1836 TEXAS PATERSON .36 9" in stock?

 

[Boston Bill]

I just got back from shooting mine at the farm. I only shot 6 rounds that i put a homemade lube over the bullets. And a box of .45LC in a kirst konverter. The homemade is parrafin and beeswax and vaseline. Not near as messy as the bore butter was. Still makes cleanup a bit more ... messy.

I am trying to find the post. Can you just use a drop of oil on the ball? Was supposed to work pretty good.

 

[Boston Bill]

I am trying to find the post. Can you just use a drop of oil on the ball? Was supposed to work pretty good.

lol, see posts above!

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Do you know if they ever have the 1836 TEXAS PATERSON .36 9" in stock?

I dont know. I see that link is no longer available.

I am trying to find the post. Can you just use a drop of oil on the ball? Was supposed to work pretty good.

Probably putting lube or grease over the ball is overkill. I started doing it cuz i thought it prevents chainfires. Then i just kept doin it. A bit of oil probably works just as well. Turns out most chainfires happen at the nipples or caps or even a crack in a cylinder. A drop of oil on the ball would probably be plenty to keep it lubed

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Do you know if they ever have the 1836 TEXAS PATERSON .36 9" in stock?

Good lookin gun! Love that long barrel.

 

[alaskagrizz49]

My ROA and 1858 both shoot Kaido’s 240 grainer very well, I got a mold from him 2-3 years ago...great bullet!

 

[Bear88]

My ROA and 1858 both shoot Kaido’s 240 grainer very well, I got a mold from him 2-3 years ago...great bullet!

Do you have to load those in your 1858 off the gun and how do you go about getting one of those molds

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I use a Quick 6 loader, out of the gun in my ROA and an 1858 but Kaidos should load in the gun too.

 

[Bear88]

I use a Quick 6 loader, out of the gun in my ROA and an 1858 but Kaidos should load in the gun too.
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That's a slick looking tool and I've been wanting to give the kaidos a try just don't know where to get them

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Kaido Ojama can be reached at [email protected]. thats what ive always been told. I havent got to the point where i am ready to buy a mold yet

 

[alaskagrizz49]

That’s the same contact email I have for Kaido Ojamma, I couldn’t find a phone number. I remember pay $90-100 for his custom Lee 6 bullet molds for the 240 grain version, I’ve not shot the 220’s...

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Just saw this ROA with a scope on GB.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/873294343