Shotshell reloading lead economy

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Half-Cocked

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So as I am getting into shotgun reloading I've been thinking that it would be more economical to remove shot from factory shells than buy a #15 bag for 58 dollars.

No 8 shot contains 1 to 1 1/8 ounces of shot. 16 ounces to a pound 25 shells in a box. Bird shot is what at most 10 bucks for 25 shells so 25 ounces for 10 bucks plus 25 primers. Roughly 3.3 boxes makes 15 pounds if my math is right.

What I would really like to do is buy the cheap bird shot, gently uncrimp the shell, harvest the lead and cast to a slug then put the slug in the cup, crimp back.

Think it's possible? Paying 1 buck or more for slugs when I can find them sucks.
 

CatamountRob

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Why wouldn’t you just buy or cast your own slugs from lead and load them in once fired hulls from scratch?
I think you can probably get 25 pounds of reclaimed shot for around $60?
I think lead shot contains a bit of arsenic so be sure to melt it in a well ventilated area.
 

deermanok

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You should check out the other site;
Muzzleloaderforum.com
There's a guy over there that has lead for sale every week.
I just looked and saw he sold a 64 pound lot for $ 128.00 shipped.
 

CatamountRob

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I don’t think your math is quite right. Let’s assume your cheap shells are 1oz loads, that’s 25 ounces per box. It would require 240 shells to get 15 pounds which is almost 10 boxes of shells.
 

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I don’t think your math is quite right. Let’s assume your cheap shells are 1oz loads, that’s 25 ounces per box. It would require 240 shells to get 15 pounds which is almost 10 boxes of shells.
You are right not sure how I figured 3.3 boxes is equal to 15 pounds. Must of been a late night.

Sorry guys you were right. Cast slugs is the way to go. Probably end up getting the lee 7/8 or 1 ounce slug mold.
 

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When I was poor, I would go to the range and pick up bullets after a rain. I could fill a 3 lb coffee can up in about 10 minutes.
This is exactly what I would do if I was into casting slugs. I'd be there at first light and I'd be saving the copper jackets too. Scrap copper is getting a pretty good return right now.
 

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Not a bad idea at all. I know a shop where they save the wheel weights. However, that type of lead is probably harder.

My uncle used to melt those down and pour into little holes he made in the ground for crude fishing weights. Add a paper clip in the soft lead before it hardens and boom near free fishing weights.

The range harvest idea sounds better. Gives me some exercise and cleans things up just a little.
 

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H-C when reloading modern shotshells use a book or published load sheet for each load. Smokeless shotshell re-loading lead, steel, tungsten, or slugs of different shapes and materials use a specific primer -hull- powder- and wad, and sometimes crimp to keep pressures below safety standards.
 

southdakbearfan

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H-C when reloading modern shotshells use a book or published load sheet for each load. Smokeless shotshell re-loading lead, steel, tungsten, or slugs of different shapes and materials use a specific primer -hull- powder- and wad, and sometimes crimp to keep pressures below safety standards.
This right here. A 1 ounce slug will develop pressures differently than a birdshot load as it will interact and compress differently with the bore. It may also require a different wad altogether, or no wad (just fiber cushions and a gas seal) depending on the style of slug.

Get a good manual that explains the entire process. A wad isn’t just a wad, different wads are required for different hulls, different types of shot, etc. their are many different types and styles of hulls that require different components.

Slug loading is an entirely different ball of wax, just like steel, tungsten, bismuth and other types of shot load differently and require different components than lead.
 
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