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  1. Aug 3, 2019 #1

    45-70

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    trying to get one of these built 20190724_113138.jpg
     
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    Dennis Olson

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    A .45-70 is a cartridge caliber.
    If you want a muzzle loader caliber for your (looks like an Allen under hammer) get a .45 bbl with a groove diameter of .457 that way you can load and shoot bullets like you would in a .45-70
     
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    didn't say it was a 45-70. it is a .45 cal. rice bullet barrel , 1-18 twist, 458
    shoot full wrapped PP bullets
     
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    Sorry your name is .45-70 I was confused
     
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    Is the underhammer a Allen sold by Pecatonica River. Looks like it to me
     
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    yes, having built for long range
     
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    Gonna be a good one.
    Mine is an Ed Rayl bbl
    36" 1" ATF .450 bore 458 groove
    Built on an Arkansas underhammer
    120 gr goex 3f 480 gr lyman postel bullet. That load is 500 meter silhouettes.same 1:18 twist
     
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    gunnermike

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    Dennis, what is an Arkansas underhammer anyway? Never heard that used. Mike
     
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    45-70, I always thought that an underhammer would make an excellent long range rifle, but I've only seen one used in a match. Most shooters stick with the traditional Gibbs, Alexander Henry or Rigby rifles.
    Here's a photo of an underhammer used in a match in England. I believe it was made by the late Rex Holbrook. Rex made very fine copies of long range sights.
    uhammer.jpg

    Here's the only photo of a Holbrook underhammer I've ever found from a forum in France.
    holbro10a.jpg holbro10b.jpg holbro11.jpg

    Good luck with your build. Mike
     
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    This under hammer looks close to a Billinghurst lock. But may not be. Lee Shaver shoots his own made under hammer in the world muzzle loading comperitions. An arkansas under hammer is about 10 % larger than a HA . It has a top and bottom tang which is handy to mount a long range soule sight.
     
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    i have never saw Lee shoot an underhammer
     
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    Me neither, at least not at Oak Ridge..
     
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    This sure isn’t an under hammer here he is shooting
    during the last world championships
     

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    He is shooting one of his Ferris Rifles he built. Very fine muzzle loading rifles. Wished I would have had one built.
     
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    The guy in the background with the 10 gallon hat has one of Lee Shaver's Ferris rifles in his hands, too. Here's a close up the the Ferris rifle:
    20011 Midrange Match 003.jpg
     
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