Thanks for the quick reply. A little history, I retired in August 2018. I was at the local shooting range a couple months back and saw 2 fellows shooting a White ML Super 91 and really liked what I saw and after talking to those 2 fellows I started looking to buy a White Super 91. I came across this Modern Muzzleloading web site and with contacts made on the DWB forum I have in the last month have bought a Super 91 in .504 cal and .451 caliber. Since those purchases I have learned of the White Thunderbolt and want to buy a White Thunderbolt. Now being retired I can go to the range anytime I want and shoot these Whites. Life is GOOD.