1st Omega. WOW

[rugerbh103]

My daughter shoots a Knight LK93. She was having issues cocking it due to hand strength. I found a used Omega Z5, with a Nikon Prosatff scope. It is a little rough, slightly pitted bore, but not bad and reasonably priced. I cleaned the bore as well as I could and drilled out the flame channel. I could not believe how much crud the drilling pulled out.

Shoot it at 50 yards with her load, 80 gr. T7 FFG Scorpian PT Gold 240 in a CR Sabot and a W209. That thing shot a clover leaf group. I'm very impressed.

It does have some blowback with a W209. Is anyone using a Woodman Arms adjustable plug? Seems like a good idea, just expensive considering what I paid for the rifle.

 

[billyboy*]

It does have some blowback with a W209.

The most inexpensive fix without purchasing bestill's or Woodman's Custom Breech Plug is to separate your Win W209 Primers by length & use the ones that are .300"+ Long.
You might also want to drill out the Flame Channel to 5/32" to take some of the pressure off the 209 Primer in that Short Breech Plug. (Factory is 1/8")

 

[rugerbh103]

The most inexpensive fix without purchasing bestill's or Woodman's Custom Breech Plug is to separate your Win W209 Primers by length & use the ones that are .300"+ Long.
You might also want to drill out the Flame Channel to 5/32" to take some of the pressure off the 209 Primer in that Short Breech Plug. (Factory is 1/8")

Thanks. I was using .301 W209's and still getting no crush.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I always look at it as, i spent less on the gun so i can afford to spend more fixing it up and customizing it.

 

[ElDiablo]

The Woodman plug is the last plug you’d ever have to buy for this or any Omega. It works flawlessly. Money well spent!

 

[Swamp]

I have an Omega as well, and its very accurate. Still one of the best Inline ML'ers ever made in my opinion.

 

[retrieverman]

Every time I see a thread or post about an Omega, it makes me want one.

 

[brad502a]

you could use an o ring or the shim spacers to tighten up the headspace

 

[rugerbh103]

Just put a new factory plug in. I haven't measured yet, but it feels much tighter. When this one wears out I'll buy the Woodman adjustable plug.

 

[JBushnell]

Every time I see a thread or post about an Omega, it makes me want one.

Me as well, and I have no use for it. I'll qualify that by saying "no practical use," meaning hunting for deer/elk...

 

[rugerbh103]

I continue to be impressed. The new breech plug sealed up fine with W209's. Got out to the 100 yard range today, same load wallowed out a single hole group. For sure need to find myself a stainless laminate model. I was alittle worried I over payed for a Z5. You couldn't buy this one off me now.

 

[retrieverman]

Well, I absolutely don’t need another muzzleloader, but I’m jumping on the Omega bandwagon. It should be here on Tuesday.

 

[retrieverman]

Anyone use a variflame breech plug or is it even needed?
I’ve already got the breech plug and primer adapters, so I won’t have to buy anything.

 

[brownisdown]

If it ain't broke,don't fool with it.

 

[rangerod]

Every time I see a thread or post about an Omega, it makes me want one.

Go for it. Keep your eyes peeled and look a whole bunch. I found mine (Z5) on gunbroker for a good price. It was in great condition. When T/C quit making them imho they quit making them because they thought the Triumph and later the Encore would be better and they're not.

 

[billyboy*]

Anyone use a variflame breech plug or is it even needed?
I’ve already got the breech plug and primer adapters, so I won’t have to buy anything.

I don't have the Variflame Plug but have a Factory Modified Plug for the Variflame Modules with O-Rings. I would suggest to Endmill Drill deeper for the O-rings. The Modules Leak without O-Rings.

https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/...-to-use-variflame-adapters.40831/#post-553375

 

[retrieverman]

I picked up the new to me Omega this morning, and I think I’m going to like it.

From initial sight in shots, it appears 65 gr BH (by weight) 250 gr .458 45/70 bullet with an orange harvester sabot is going to be a pretty decent load.

 

[retrieverman]

I did a search and didn’t come up with an answer, and rather than start a new thread, I’m going to ask here.
65 grains (by weight) of BH doesn’t seem like a really heavy load compared to some charges I see used on here, but I ended up with quite a bit of unburned powder. I‘m using the variflame plug with CCI magnum large rifle primers for ignition.
The rifle shoots well, but with the price of BH, I really hate feeling like I’m wasting powder.

 

[MrTom]

Retriever....how tight does the sabot/bullet fit? BH really likes resistance/pressure put to it. I shoot 77 weighed grains in my Accura V2 with a 250 grain Barnes XPB in a black sabot and the fit is quite tight. I use W209 primers and when shot over snow off a bench I see zero unburned powder on the snow or in the barrel. The barrel length is 27" but I think it has more to do with the bullet/sabot having a good solid pack when loading, and plenty of loading resistance.

 

[retrieverman]

Retriever....how tight does the sabot/bullet fit? BH really likes resistance/pressure put to it. I shoot 77 weighed grains in my Accura V2 with a 250 grain Barnes XPB in a black sabot and the fit is quite tight. I use W209 primers and when shot over snow off a bench I see zero unburned powder on the snow or in the barrel. The barrel length is 27" but I think it has more to do with the bullet/sabot having a good solid pack when loading, and plenty of loading resistance.

I was shooting a .458 45/70 bullet and an orange harvester sabot, and they were super tight going down the barrel. They shot really well.