Help ID Muzzleloader

[Chaz]

My wife's uncle passed away and left this muzzleloader to my father-in-law, but we can't find any info on it and there isn't any info on the barrel. I assume it's a smokeless, but how can you be 100% sure with no info. If anyone has insight, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Mauser 98 conversion maybe? Im going off of the timney trigger so could be way off.

 

[snapbang]

The stock is a Ramline. I have a few as they were about $69.00 when they came out.

The scope mount reads MKX FN98. Believe that scope mount would fit those two bolts.
Definitely a Mauser action. I see several parts that confirm that. Should be a great gun

 

[michiganmuzzy]

The receiver should be strong enough but without knowing what the barrel is i would only shoot sub powders. There are no tiny makers marks or caliber, twist rate, anything?

 

[Chaz]

The receiver should be strong enough but without knowing what the barrel is i would only shoot sub powders. There are no tiny makers marks or caliber, twist rate, anything?

Thank you for the reply, no I don't see anything on the barrel

 

[jsteurrys]

Pull the breechplug and post a picture of it along with the bolt face. That might help identify who made it.

 

[Chaz]

Pull the breechplug and post a picture of it along with the bolt face. That might help identify who made it.

Thanks for the reply!

 

[jsteurrys]

The receiver should be strong enough but without knowing what the barrel is i would only shoot sub powders.

It should be okay for subs. What is the caliber and twist rate? It looks like the headspace is not correct as there appears to be blowback.

 

[Shorty]

First clean the living crap out of it and when you get done, do it again. Then put a real tight jag in the barrel, mark the ram rod at the very rear near your hand with masking tape. Put a timing mark on the tape with a magic marker. Push the jag down the barrel until your timing mark comes to the top again, this would indicate 1 complete revolution. Mark at this point just as you did on other end of rod. Pull rod out of barrel and measure the difference between marks. This would give you a good idea of your twist rate.

 

[BadgerRidge]

That thing is crying, "Don't shoot me until you make a better breech plug that headspaces correctly to seal primers & has a vent liner and proper expansion chamber."

I'd wager that the existing design either doesn't seal the 209, or if it does, It's blowing the primer up.... I wrote a blog post about this if you want the details:

https://www.badgerridgeind.com/badgerden/breech-plug-design-seal-up-blow-back-shoot-blackhorn209
Oh and definitely only shoot black powder and its substitutes through that (Black powder, Pyrodex, 777, and if you seal up and redo the breech plug to have an expansion chamber/vent liner you could consider BH209).

 

[Chaz]

It should be okay for subs. What is the caliber and twist rate? It looks like the headspace is not correct as there appears to be blowback.

Thanks for the reply, it's a .50 cal and appears to be about a 1:28" twist

 

[brad502a]

it is not Mauser 98, it looks like a Model 93 or 95, judging by the gas escape ports and bolt design, no third lug. It should be OK for 45,000 psi or so.

 

[brad502a]

there should be markings on the receiver ring, under the scope mount. The mount looks like it has been shimmed on the front possibly because it is not a 98 and has a 98 mount on it.