n8dawg6,I bought one of those on Gunbroker.$222 shipped to my door with a $50 T/C tang sight already on it.That was the best deal on one I had seen.Bought it from Richards Gunshop in East Burke Vermont,very nice guy to deal with.Interestingly,(to me anyway) he says he gets those carbines in trade all the time,where I live you hardly EVER see one,but then again he is only 100 miles from the T/C factory.Now if I can wring some good 100 yd groups out of it I'll be set.By the way,I called T/C and they said the twist on the WMC was 1-38 and they had no info on any other twist rates in the 50 cal.