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I'll just stuck with my Rem .30-06 at that price... :|
I'll just stuck with my Rem .30-06 at that price... :|
ShawnT said:It just was released in the American Hunter Mag from the NRA too. It is fairly heavy at 8.5lbs too. :shock: That's not for me. I only like my Target and Varmint rifles that heavy.
GM54-120 said:I still want to know how in the world they can claim to ignite ALL the 200gr of powder when that powder cant possibly completely burn. If it did completely burn you would NEVER need to swab. There would be no fouling. Its not chemically possible to completely burn (convert a solid to gas) Pyrodex, only smokeless achieves a near complete burn...........quote]
Well...hummmmm..... You're still going to get a patch come out lightly dirty but, the propellant completely burns in the first 9" and turns into fine powder like dust. With an Ultimate Firearms rifle, swabbing serves two purposes, one to wipe out the dust and the other to lightly lubricate the barrel for the next round. I can tell you from "first hand experience" that a patch will come out three or four times cleaner shooting T7M pellets, than it will shooting one charge of BH209.
I've shot two containers so far of T7M pellets with the .45 Winchester Magnum Brass. I haven't had to modify a single part on the rifle, the brass comes out AS CLEAN as it entered the chamber, inside and out. There is "0" blowback and the entire chamber is as clean after shooting as before shooting. I use one patch between shots while shooting the T7M pellets, as recommended, to remove the light dust and lube for the next round. I shot twelve (12) rounds the first time I shot the rifle. The first 3 rounds from just being bore sighted took me to an acceptable first time zero. The next nine (9) rounds went into the same hole, enlarging it. Cleaning it, is easier than any BP muzzleloader I've ever cleaned since I started shooting them in the "70's". Four patches, maybe five, including the lubrication patch and you're done. No breech plug to remove and clean, only the brake if one has it. A drill bit to clean out carbon can stay on the work bench.
Is there even a remote chance, that you may be putting to much emphasis on "complete burn"? I've shot thousands of rounds through a centerfire, which smokeless folks say burns completely, yet I end up with dirty patches when cleaning. I would highly recommend that if anyone is skeptic, they should find an owner near them and ask to shoot the rifle. You're going to review something different than you've seen before, just like I did.
If Remington followed the exact breech plug design that Johnston makes, the only thing left to test is the barrel they put on it. Get one out of the hands of a writer and into the hands of a shooter...........
FYI...... Western from their published test barrel, achieved 2,400fps with a 300gr bullet and 112grs BH by weight.
Squeeze said:Why is the ultimate and the new remington only available in .50? Most others and home custom builders are going smaller and smaller in cal. Pretty much going to magnum CF rifle calibers in front stuffer.
I kind of like the new rem..But I also want to wait a bit for initial reviews. I think It made the list of 'want someday' but theres a few already slated as 'next priority'
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