Matthew323
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Smokeless muzzleloaders are on my mind as a possible future build, as MtMonkey is urging me in this direction.
I have been spitballing a.....
1.) lightweight bolt action with a fluted bolt, possibly with integral Weaver/Picatinny scope bases as part of the reciever's bridge.
Thinking the AnTi X action from Defiance Machine.
2.) a Hankins/Arrowhead, large rifle primer, brass module capable, breech plug.
3.) a 16.25" long, cut rifled, 1:14" rate of twist, bull barreled, .45 caliber, 416 stainless steel barrel.
4.) a laminated, hard rock, sugar maple stock with lots of curl.
8 each, GrovTec, flush-mounted, 9/16"-18 threaded, sling swivel bases installed on both sides of the stock, as well as down the centerline on the underside of the forearm, and the belly of the buttstock.
Why so many sling swivel bases? So that any type of modern shooting sling may be utilized as an aid to holding the rifle steady, as well as carrying the rifle on one's shoulder when not in use. These would include, amongst others....
Ching sling
Rhodesian sling
CW sling
Galco RifleMann sling
Single-point tactical sling
2-point tactical sling
3-point tactical sling
Ultimate Firearms sling
All the above aside, my question has to do with pressure. A recent thread where a member was asking for chronograph data for a RL7 load for his rifle, and a response mentioning pressure testing equipment, got me to thinking (always a dangerous thing).
Where is the load data for smokeless muzzleloaders coming from?
Is it being extrapolated from existing data for cartridges?
Or, have private individuals invested in pressure measuring equipment so that they have the ability to safely develop smokeless powder loads for their own rifles?
Just out of curiosity, what's the minimum investment in order to get started with pressure testing loads with smokeless powders in muzzleloading rifles?
Thanks for your answers.
Edit: There doesn't seem to be much load data for smokeless muzzleloaders coming from the powder manufacturers themselves.
Can I speculate that the manufacturers see smokeless muzzleloaders as a threat to the already existing brass cartridge market?
I have been spitballing a.....
1.) lightweight bolt action with a fluted bolt, possibly with integral Weaver/Picatinny scope bases as part of the reciever's bridge.
Thinking the AnTi X action from Defiance Machine.
2.) a Hankins/Arrowhead, large rifle primer, brass module capable, breech plug.
3.) a 16.25" long, cut rifled, 1:14" rate of twist, bull barreled, .45 caliber, 416 stainless steel barrel.
4.) a laminated, hard rock, sugar maple stock with lots of curl.
8 each, GrovTec, flush-mounted, 9/16"-18 threaded, sling swivel bases installed on both sides of the stock, as well as down the centerline on the underside of the forearm, and the belly of the buttstock.
Why so many sling swivel bases? So that any type of modern shooting sling may be utilized as an aid to holding the rifle steady, as well as carrying the rifle on one's shoulder when not in use. These would include, amongst others....
Ching sling
Rhodesian sling
CW sling
Galco RifleMann sling
Single-point tactical sling
2-point tactical sling
3-point tactical sling
Ultimate Firearms sling
All the above aside, my question has to do with pressure. A recent thread where a member was asking for chronograph data for a RL7 load for his rifle, and a response mentioning pressure testing equipment, got me to thinking (always a dangerous thing).
Where is the load data for smokeless muzzleloaders coming from?
Is it being extrapolated from existing data for cartridges?
Or, have private individuals invested in pressure measuring equipment so that they have the ability to safely develop smokeless powder loads for their own rifles?
Just out of curiosity, what's the minimum investment in order to get started with pressure testing loads with smokeless powders in muzzleloading rifles?
Thanks for your answers.
Edit: There doesn't seem to be much load data for smokeless muzzleloaders coming from the powder manufacturers themselves.
Can I speculate that the manufacturers see smokeless muzzleloaders as a threat to the already existing brass cartridge market?