I meant 58 - still feel the same - I'll assume so..dbowling said:ease of use and really big game- conical
for med size game-roundball
52Bore said:I meant 58 - still feel the same - I'll assume so..dbowling said:ease of use and really big game- conical
for med size game-roundball
52Bore said:Doing a little reading on 58 RB. Kinda surprised at the sudden loss of energy - like from 1800 ft-lbs to 800 ft-lbs in 100 yds.
RB weight 270gr, estimate MV 1700 and BC of 0.1. If anyone has any accurate data, please share.
admiral said:If you have never used a bigger bore (.58, .62, .66, .69, .72) RB rifle on game it's easy to look at paper ballistics and dismiss it. The reality is they crush game. Paper doesn't always tell the story i.e. according to aerospace engineers bumble bees shouldn't be able to fly. I have many fast twist .45 traditional rifles like repro Whitworths, Volunteers, Rigby target, Alex Henry, etc. and have shot game with them all. The frontal area of a big round ball really hammers game.
admiral said:They are only the same if you shoot a wadcutter conical. That's why idaho Lewis wants that big meplat. If you shoot longer ranges at game, which to me is 100-150 yards average shot with a traditional iron sighted rifle, that's not the RB's forte. The fast twists .451's shine at that distance and are my choice. My main point to all this is: 99.9% of muzzleloading hunters have never shot deer/elk/moose with a big bore (.58 and up) RB rifle. They just assume a RB sucks because paper ballistics say so. To see it first hand a few times changes perspectives. As an aside I'm not a fan of .45 or .50 RB's for deer. I know countless deer have been killed with them but I've never been impressed overall.
waarp8nt said:I believe a nearly one inch quarter pound ball deserves a substantially better mount than my shoulder. :shock:
52Bore said:Looking at the KO values, I thought it would have been equal to the conical.
Taylors KO value of these 58's:
RB 38
Conical 59
.243 = 11, 30-06 = 21, .416 RemMag = 56
I used 550gr in the KO value. Figured I'd be somewhere between 500 - 550gr.Idaholewis said:52Bore said:Looking at the KO values, I thought it would have been equal to the conical.
Taylors KO value of these 58's:
RB 38
Conical 59
.243 = 11, 30-06 = 21, .416 RemMag = 56
How much does the Conical weigh?
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