Thanks to all the knowlege on this forum I was able to harvest a Cow Elk, My first, Here's what I used, TC Pro hunter loaded with 90 Grains BH 209(vol) Hornady FPB 350 Grain (tip cut-off flush) CCI Primer. Shot was only 20 yards. through front shoulder, (only shot I had in the trees) she went 10 yards and fell down hill about 75 until a dead fall tree stopped her, and the real work began. Thanks for letting me in the forum and for all the great advice.