Live in the bluegrass state. Have been hunting with ML for a long time. From the build it yourself TC Hawkin kit to my favorite a Knight MK85 Back country carbine built back in Tony Knights garage. I got to meet him at the SHOT show in Las Vegas soon after he started MML company and special order mine. I have the #5 gun made of this model, taken black bear and lots of white tail with it over the years.