Alright do I understand everyone correctly is the Disc Elite even in .45 cal discontiued? I found some on a web site around 400 bucks and believe I will try one. Another question is all I have had is a .50 caliber is the .45 a flatter shooter ? Whitetails is probably my biggest animal. And if anyone knows where I could still get a .50 Elite please let me know. Appreciate all your help and Love this forum. Heck I probably should just go pick up the omega at wallyworld but just can't make up my mind THanks