I went to the range today put a new Nikon Omega scope on the Triumph, since some one had ask about using the Omega with the Short Black and BH I thought I would check it out after sighting in for hunting I shot both guns for group. The groups were about the same .80 for the Triumph and .85 for the Omega they just seem to keep tearing out the same hole; That's for 5 shots each by the way, could not match that one hole group I shot the other day but it was 90 degrees with a 10 to 12 mile wind so I felt good about the day. Lee