Reloading Valley .451 260 gr JHP Test

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Got in a shipment of the Speer 45 Caliber 260gr .451 JHP from Reloading Valley. Figured Id give em a try with my Mountaineer just for kicks.

Was pleasantly surprised at the inital group.

shooting was 100 yards 65 degrees - 1.257 Overall all group size - .806 CTC 3 shot group

90 gr BH 209 by volume - Harvester black crush rib - Win 209

Looking them up Speer lists them as plinking but the are a HP, but they do list is for 45 colt and 460 SW so Im guessing the velocity wont be an issue but they arent bonded so Im not sure what would happen on deer.
 

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GM54-120 said:
Is the bottom of the bullet "cupped"...concave?

Yes, a mild cup

You're pretty much look just like the base on the 270 deep curl bullet now that I look at it

If you look at the picture on the left is a deep curl 270 on the right is the 45 caliber 260 it's not as pronounced with the cup but it is definitely still there
 

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If its cupped it should be a UniCor bullet. Basically the same as a GoldDot.,,,Never knew the 260gr was a UniCor. I thought they were jacketed because ive never seen them listed as UniCor. The 300gr JSP is called jacketed now but at one time was called UniCor.
 
GM54-120 said:
If its cupped it should be a UniCor bullet. Basically the same as a GoldDot.,,,Never knew the 260gr was a UniCor. I thought they were jacketed because ive never seen them listed as UniCor. The 300gr JSP is called jacketed now but at one time was called UniCor.


Ok thats good to know. Ill have to do some research before I try it out on some animals. They shoot really well on paper. Ill try and see if I can get a recovered bullet from the backstop dirt berm.
 
Nice shooting Dave. I doubt you would have a problem using those on Deer with that load.

This got me thinking that I might still have a few of the old Knight pre-packaged 260gn jacketed bullets. I had 4 bullets left. They are .451 diameter. I had always thought these were also Speer bullets. It has a Flat base.



The other Bullets in the pack as some Knight Lead 310gn HP's.
 

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ShawnT said:
Nice shooting Dave. I doubt you would have a problem using those on Deer with that load.

This got me thinking that I might still have a few of the old Knight pre-packaged 260gn jacketed bullets. I had 4 bullets left. They are .451 diameter. I had always thought these were also Speer bullets. It has a Flat base.

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The other Bullets in the pack as some Knight Lead 310gn HP's.



Yea, its weird because they are cupped; just not as dramatic as the 270 gr 44 Speer version.
 
This is a Speer .451 260 grain JHP retrieved from my biggest mule deer. The shot was a bit over 300 yards. Bullet weight retention was near 100%. Expansion was incredible and the kill was quick. This is an older 2002 lot of bullets. I worked for the company that made these and it was my understanding that all of the Speer bullets were bonded.
 

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I haven't played with those bullets for over 15 years, but it is what I used to shoot in my .45 Colt Blackhawk.

Back then they were flat based just like what Jimmer shows.
 
Speer changed the design of that bullet. It is now a Uni-Cor. Very little lead is exposed on the newer one. The HP looks fairly small. Just like the OPs first pic. Uni-Cor is Speers earlier "bonded style". Im pretty sure its the same bullet than Federal is using in some ammo too.

I will get some when Grafs gets them in stock or if need something else from Sportmans.
https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullets/handgun-bullets/jacketed-handgun-bullet/4481
 

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