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I have to admit, I have been cheating on another muzzleloader website .
I received this from the other site. Most of it I can believe, but one comment- that Fiocci 616 primers are not hot enough to use with BH209 I call BS! I have used Fiocci exclusively since starting BH209 and have NEVER had an issue.
Anyone else with an opinion on that statement?
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I received this from the other site. Most of it I can believe, but one comment- that Fiocci 616 primers are not hot enough to use with BH209 I call BS! I have used Fiocci exclusively since starting BH209 and have NEVER had an issue.
Anyone else with an opinion on that statement?
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You bet they will! And here's why...
Some 209 primers are just too hot...they throw too much flame. I have to tell you, I have never used any of the "for muzzleloader only" primers. For one thing they are too expensive compared to other primers. You will soon see what I use...and why.
Primers that are too hot can move the charge/sabot-bullet slightly up the barrel. This will decrease your accuracy because of the lack of consistency and the load not leaving the barrel from the same spot. Does that make sense?
Of all the brands I have used and tested, which is most of them, the Fiocchi 616 , primer gives me the best groups for a 209 primer. From testing I have done, this one has proven to be least hot... I have never had a miss fire or hang-fire. I use them with Triple 7 and Pyrodex RS. Not hot enough for Blackhorn 209.
All of the being said...here's the ignition system gives me the tightest groups. The Vari-flame adapter. Click here to find out more. These will ignite BH 209 as well as Pyrodex RS and Triple 7. I have the older version that uses small rifle primers, with Triple 7 with outstanding results. Click Here to take a look (target is under the heading, Hodgdon Triple 7 Results). They replaced them with this one. Will soon be adding the new system.
I have used CCI Magnum 209's, Remington STS and Winchester 209's with BH 209 (not Triple 7 or Pyrodex RS). and get decent results with no mis-fires or hang fires. The Vari-flame adapters will shrink the groups even more.
Here's two of the targets from a week ago...I did not scale weigh the powder on these. Click here to see them. These were shot with CCI 209M's. I will post more results in the future with the Vari Flame adapters.
Not much difference in the two groups with 10 volume grains less. Hmmm...in this instance more powder is not better from an accuracy standpoint.
Smoke note: Here's what the folks at Blackhorn 209 have to say about which primers they recommend...just click on the link below...
What is the best primer for Blackhorn 209?
There you have it. Primers make a difference, sometimes significant, in the accuracy of your muzzleloader.
Well, I hope you picked something up from this issue that will help you out.
In the next issue we will talk about how sabot alignment can effect accuracy...Until then...
Aim small, miss small and have fun with your smoker.
Take care,
Paul Sammons
www.muzzleloadingtips.com
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<table id="yui_3_7_2_1_1378833269900_5991" style="padding: 8px !important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana !important; font-size: 10px !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tr id="yui_3_7_2_1_1378833269900_5989"><td id="yui_3_7_2_1_1378833269900_5988" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana !important; font-size: 10px !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">210 S 23rd Street, Temple, TX 76504, USA</td></tr></table>You bet they will! And here's why...
Some 209 primers are just too hot...they throw too much flame. I have to tell you, I have never used any of the "for muzzleloader only" primers. For one thing they are too expensive compared to other primers. You will soon see what I use...and why.
Primers that are too hot can move the charge/sabot-bullet slightly up the barrel. This will decrease your accuracy because of the lack of consistency and the load not leaving the barrel from the same spot. Does that make sense?
Of all the brands I have used and tested, which is most of them, the Fiocchi 616 , primer gives me the best groups for a 209 primer. From testing I have done, this one has proven to be least hot... I have never had a miss fire or hang-fire. I use them with Triple 7 and Pyrodex RS. Not hot enough for Blackhorn 209.
All of the being said...here's the ignition system gives me the tightest groups. The Vari-flame adapter. Click here to find out more. These will ignite BH 209 as well as Pyrodex RS and Triple 7. I have the older version that uses small rifle primers, with Triple 7 with outstanding results. Click Here to take a look (target is under the heading, Hodgdon Triple 7 Results). They replaced them with this one. Will soon be adding the new system.
I have used CCI Magnum 209's, Remington STS and Winchester 209's with BH 209 (not Triple 7 or Pyrodex RS). and get decent results with no mis-fires or hang fires. The Vari-flame adapters will shrink the groups even more.
Here's two of the targets from a week ago...I did not scale weigh the powder on these. Click here to see them. These were shot with CCI 209M's. I will post more results in the future with the Vari Flame adapters.
Not much difference in the two groups with 10 volume grains less. Hmmm...in this instance more powder is not better from an accuracy standpoint.
Smoke note: Here's what the folks at Blackhorn 209 have to say about which primers they recommend...just click on the link below...
What is the best primer for Blackhorn 209?
There you have it. Primers make a difference, sometimes significant, in the accuracy of your muzzleloader.
Well, I hope you picked something up from this issue that will help you out.
In the next issue we will talk about how sabot alignment can effect accuracy...Until then...
Aim small, miss small and have fun with your smoker.
Take care,
Paul Sammons
www.muzzleloadingtips.com
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