Re: What serial # grrw Indian trade rifle do you have
muzzlestuffer said:
Makes me wonder if that's why blue jacket started on his rifles maybe he knew better ? Mine is <a href='/tags/6' rel='nofollow' title='See all tagged subjects with: #6'>#6</a> so I would like to find out at least currently if I have the lowest # known at this point in time.
Lou,
Back in 2012, I was contacted by a guy in Nebraska that had a couple of GRRW guns that he wanted information on. One of them was a Leman Indian Rifle that he thought may have been made by someone named Bluejacket. Unfortunately, he was unable to send me photographs of the rifle but here is his description of it.
I just fetched up my Leman Injun Rifle and looked her over once again. It has a old looking "tombstone" stamp with a rounded top. Inside it looks like an O over a X. It is directly ahead of the wood on the first flat left of the top flat. I was told at the Montana Western in '92 by the seller, that was the stamp of Blue Jacket. Do you know who went by that name?
Atop the barrel, just in front of the nipple, is a star, followed by No. 2, followed by another star and then, GREEN RIVER RIVER WORKS over ROOSEVELT, UTAH.
This is followed by another star. There is also a star behind and forward of both the rear and front sights. These stars are hand cut and not stamped. This rifle bears no other marks such as a serial no. The only "serial" no. being the No. 2 on the top flat.
The other rifle he owned was a Jim Bridger Commemorative Hawken rifle.
There is also supposed to be Leman Indian Rifle <a href='/tags/1' rel='nofollow' title='See all tagged subjects with: #1'>#1</a> here in Colorado, but I haven't been able to confirm that beyond 3rd hand information.
The prototype that Bluejacket built for the Leman Indian Rifle turned up in Vernal, Utah a few years ago. It was written up and published in the July 2013 issue of the
Green River Gazette and also pictured on Doc White's website.
In answer to your question, the prototype and <a href='/tags/2' rel='nofollow' title='See all tagged subjects with: #2'>#2</a> is known for the Leman Indian Rifle. Serial number 1 may also be around, but not confirmed.
I believe the prototype was built in 1974. It was taken to the NAPR Rendezvous that summer and photographs of it were published in the October 1974
Buckskin Report. I'm not sure when the first production rifle was made, but likely that year. Production was slow because their stock duplicator wasn't long enough to handle full stocks, just half stocks, and they had to hand shape the stocks from a stock blank. By the time they began producing the Poor Boy rifle in 1977, I estimate that they had made approximately 30 Leman Indian Rifles. The Indian Rifles and the Poor Boy rifles shared the same serial number range and the lowest number for a Poor Boy I know of is 32.
Phil Meek