I copied the entire paragraph of what powder CVA recommends to use, picking and choosing portions of it doesn't make the meaning clear to me, I wanted it in print here so I would not get sidetracked, I know the link to the manual that is how I copied the paragraph. CVA does recommend to use 2F in their Break action guns, they also said if you had any questions about a powder to contact the Powder Manufacturer. If your interpretation of this is that CVA said to try 3F and since 2F is the recommended powder and there seems to some confusion as to what CVA is recommending, if I were you I would contact CVA for clarification or as stated the 3f powder manufacture you are thinking about and ask them about their load recommendations. There is already one 3F powder manufacture that has recommended loads for 3F in this thread as posted, evidently they are willing to put their experience with their powders on the line, use that brand they are already accepting liability. If anyone thinks CVA should put into print that they need to recommend 3F also in their manufactured gun Manual I would suggest taking that up with CVA, I think if CVA wanted anyone to Try 3F in their guns they would have clearly recommended it, just like they in no uncertain terms tell their customers under no circumstances to use smokeless powder in their manufactured guns, yet still some people have and do, I doubt that those people called the smokeless powder manufactures asking for load data.