new knight

[Squeeze]

I did, last year. Supposed to be #5 on the list. Spoke with them a few times, first ~$1200 then they wanted some fancy presentation case package... Working on it, but more now maybe ~$1500.. I said I don't want a display item, I want to shoot it. Next it was a whole package deal with a scope. I HAVE scopes. I havent spoke with them in a while. They were supposed to call or E-mail when available. Still waiting

 

[ENCORE50A]

I did, last year. Supposed to be #5 on the list. Spoke with them a few times, first ~$1200 then they wanted some fancy presentation case package... Working on it, but more now maybe ~$1500.. I said I don't want a display item, I want to shoot it. Next it was a whole package deal with a scope. I HAVE scopes. I havent spoke with them in a while. They were supposed to call or E-mail when available. Still waiting

Package is: $1,999.99 No scope, but one 10moa and one 20moa scope rails, case bullets, range rod, bi-pod included.

 

[ENCORE50A]

I did, last year. Supposed to be #5 on the list. Spoke with them a few times, first ~$1200 then they wanted some fancy presentation case package... Working on it, but more now maybe ~$1500.. I said I don't want a display item, I want to shoot it. Next it was a whole package deal with a scope. I HAVE scopes. I havent spoke with them in a while. They were supposed to call or E-mail when available. Still waiting

Package is: $1,999.99 No scope, but one 10moa and one 20moa scope rails, custom case, bullets, range rod, bi-pod included.

 

[Squeeze]

At this point, No thanks. For $2k ill buy a remington and put a brux 18 twist on with any of a spectrum of BP/primer systems first

 

[1874sharpsshooter]

At this point, No thanks. For $2k ill buy a remington and put a brux 18 twist on with any of a spectrum of BP/primer systems first

that would probably be quicker too
Ashley at Knight said it could be preordered but it's a 6 month wait time right now

 

[Dougs136Schwartz]

Knight told me 3 months till they have any . I tried to order one 2 weeks ago .

 

[Squeeze]

:lol: they told me that several times a year ago

 

[Dougs136Schwartz]

Really ? What is the problem with Knight now ?

 

[GM54-120]

Not sure what the big delay is about Knight getting these unless Green Mountain is just swamped with orders. GM sells that 45 1-18 blank. Its a cut rifle blank for BPCR iirc. I believe GM does the receiver machining so all the lead time is basically already done.

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/bx4518-2-4 ... und-blank/

Wouldn't it be possible for a good machinist to use the GM 45 1-18 blank and just use the customer parts to complete the rifle?

 

[bestill]

Not sure what the big delay is about Knight getting these unless Green Mountain is just swamped with orders. GM sells that 45 1-18 blank. Its a cut rifle blank for BPCR iirc. I believe GM does the receiver machining so all the lead time is basically already done.

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/bx4518-2-4 ... und-blank/

Wouldn't it be possible for a good machinist to use the GM 45 1-18 blank and just use the customer parts to complete the rifle?

Yes and cheaper and with bare primer ignition and barrel of choice.

 

[GM54-120]

Bestill, that blank is 35" long. My idea is to make it just like a Knight as a 1 piece barrel/action. It looks doable if someone has the skills and equipment. The old barreled action can serve as a "template" of sorts. Just swap over all the parts when done machining.

In theory you could start with a Knight Elite and end up with a fast twist Elite 45.

 

[ENCORE50A]

All Knight parts w/GM barrel. Won the fall National event a couple years back. (Not mine)

 

[bestill]

Bestill, that blank is 35" long. My idea is to make it just like a Knight as a 1 piece barrel/action. It looks doable if someone has the skills and equipment. The old barreled action can serve as a "template" of sorts. Just swap over all the parts when done machining.

In theory you could start with a Knight Elite and end up with a fast twist Elite 45.

It is doable but would take a couple specialized cutters and also make recoil lug block and weld it on

I prefer cutting a donor rifle barrel off and thread action and install new barrel with threaded tenon . Allows for perfect headspace.

 

[Dougs136Schwartz]

All of your ideas are great . I really like Jeff's idea . That solves the headspacing issue . I'm just after the most accurate production muzzleloader I can get . Due to Friendship . That's what intrigued me about the 500 .

 

[Squeeze]

I think the 500 is a heavy target gun. Gary was saying how the Mountaineer .45 1-20 Kicks so much more than the 500. I talked to him a few times last year trying for one. More testing..... not ready... soon... few more weeks... and the price kept going up.. :huh?:

 

[GM54-120]

You should try a Super DISC with a 300gr bullet and 120gr of BH209 or a 480gr and 80gr of BH209. It will rock you pretty good The worst though is my 54-120 with a 50-385gr and 120gr of BH209. It will blur your vision within a few shots.

 

[Squeeze]

yep. My old White .504 load was a 460 over 100 grn 7 that was a thumper too. I still think 12ga slugs are worse. I dont hardly use the slug guns anymore, It's all Muzzy or bow now

 

[ENCORE50A]

You should try a Super DISC with a 300gr bullet and 120gr of BH209 or a 480gr and 80gr of BH209. It will rock you pretty good The worst though is my 54-120 with a 50-385gr and 120gr of BH209. It will blur your vision within a few shots.

Try 180grs with a 300gr bullet :wink:

 

[Dougs136Schwartz]

Lol how about 100 grains of Blackhorn by weight with a 350 grain bullet . That's not a whole lot of fun either ! Lol I know Bestill was shooting those 344 bombs with a pretty good dose of Blackhorn also. Why do we take the punishment sometimes ! Kind of crazy

 

[ENCORE50A]

Lol how about 100 grains of Blackhorn by weight with a 350 grain bullet . That's not a whole lot of fun either ! Lol I know Bestill was shooting those 344 bombs with a pretty good dose of Blackhorn also. Why do we take the punishment sometimes ! Kind of crazy

Takes a "Special" type of crazy artyman:

Once you learn to handle the recoil properly, there's nothing to it. Ain't many of us sending bullets out to the ranges we're shooting these loads and rifles accurately. :wink: