hawgslayer said:
...........I'm still hoping that some one can reply with actual quality or workmenship differences. Please don't tell me about the guns in 95/96. That problem has been long taken care of and I haven't heard of that problem lately.
Doesn't the T/C have bergera barrels or did I get wrong info on that. Aren't those barrels being purchased for center fire rifles also? Those barrels have to be pretty good don't you think?
I feel I just can't bash or bumb wrap something becasue it doesn't fit right or the trigger pull is too soft or crisp or the lenght of pull is to long or the way the stock is made or the color.
I can't speak of the T/C because I never had one in my hands. Until I've shot one and have taken on apart I'll just read the replies.
As soon as the weather breaks some I will be going out to the range and I'll answer the questions on handling an accuracy.
Ray........... :wink:
I've had both in my hands and set them both up. T/C muzzleloaders, unless something's changed in the last couple weeks, do not use Bergara barrels. However you can purchase Bergara barrels, rather muzzleloader or centerfire.
I've seen and shot a few Bergara barrels and although its claimed that the steel that its made from is better, I have not noticed ANY difference in shooting or accuracy. What I have noticed, is that it takes much longer to clean a NEW Bergara barrel than it does a factory T/C barrel. I've never seen one (NEW) that wasn't full of shavings, dirt and grime.
NEW... Bergara barrels need a good cleaning and are normally very tight loading, which can mean that s shooter's specific choice of bullet may not load without extreme force. We've found shooting here at the range, that after a 100 or more rounds, they start loading easier. When cocking the hammer, it feels like your cocking a piece of plastic and appears to have a longer distance (stroke) to cock it. I didn't measure the force to cock the hammer but, IMO it needs a stronger hammer spring. It.....appears..... that it has a much lighter frame than the Encore platform. Opening the action is pretty easy, yet the barrel falls as though it may fall off the frame. Certainly very barrel heavy, which is amplified by the additional weight of a scope.
The Beraga barrels that I've seen shoot or shot, have had no better accuracy or groups than a factory T/C barrel. Accuras that I've shot or, Bergara barrels that have replaced factory T/C barrels, have proved no more accurate or group tighter than factory T/C barrels. There's a lot of rounds shot here each year and so far, the evidence is pretty clear.
There are few, if any modifications that can be made to the Accura, which may be preferred by the shooter. You basically get what you get out of the box. Any modifications preferred by the shooter are just about non-existent...... An example: The close friend that I set up the Accura for is an excavator and has been all his life. During his working career, he's had multiple fingers broken and more than once. Because of this, he actually prefers a heavy trigger pull, as he can't feel the trigger well. Unfortunately this can't be changed, at least not easily if at all. IF......... the owner shoots all year long, there can be wear on the hinge pin, loosening up the barrel to frame action, resulting in the loss of accuracy or increased group sizes. It can certainly lead to vertical stringing, especially at long range.
With the Pro Hunter, for just about $35 plus shipping, you can change just about anything in that frame that a shooter would prefer or, to improve accuracy and tighten groups.
Now, I'm not saying that the Accura is a piece of junk or belittling it. I've set them up, shot them and they can be very accurate. I had my friend's shooting 3/4" groups at 100yds when he picked it up. However, neither he nor I have shot it at the 200yd mark and checked groups. Nothing wrong with the rifle, he's very happy with it and, every deer he's shot at with it, he's harvested.
Handling them both, side by side, there's a difference.
