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In a 20g and smaller yes. Not worth it in a 12g.$66 a box for five. Extra range? Worth it?
In a 20g and smaller yes. Not worth it in a 12g.$66 a box for five. Extra range? Worth it?
Exactly, it’s optimizing sub gauges. If you shoot a 12, longbeard XR is all you need.In a 20g and smaller yes. Not worth it in a 12g.
Yep! I only use longboard xr in my 12g with an Indian Creek choke. Shoots great groups as far as I feel comfortable shooting a turkey.Exactly, it’s optimizing sub gauges. If you shoot a 12, longbeard XR is all you need.
I'm not a shotgun expert... But I do recall when non toxic was first mandated for waterfowl... And that guys ruined barrels and chokes shooting steel through them because the shot poked a hole through the wad and was hard enough to damage the Barrel/choke. So, hard shot like TSS damaging barrels has and can happen.Just like lead the shot never touches the barrel as the wad is in between the shot and the barrel.
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Hit them up with a Google review, Yelp and with "Pissed off Consumer."Don't want to hijack a thread... But... I found a great deal at buds website. So I bought it. They canceled my order & Relisted the gun for about $100 more, and told me if I really wanted it to buy it, buy it off the new listing!
When I called and insisted they honor the original agreement, the guy on the phone said he couldn't do that. I asked for someone who could... The next guy was rude. Said buy it at the new price or walk. He didn't care. I insisted he honor the prior agreement. He hung up on me... Then canceled my account so I couldn't buy anything from them.
Mr. Tom<snipped> Now I am using the Tungsten pellets and they're the same, smooth and perfectly round. This shot does not need any choking and if choked much at all will do exactly as Badger Ridge has suggested. Steel, bismuth and tungsten are harder than hard and they do not compress well.
https://www.winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Shotshell/Long-Beard-XRExactly, it’s optimizing sub gauges. If you shoot a 12, longbeard XR is all you need.
I was looking back through here and just saw this post. Thanks for posting the link, because I’ve been thinking about trying to load some tungsten and didn’t want to pay the BP price.Tripe B is now $35/lb shipped, I buy 50 to 100kg at a time directly from china and split it up with friends, last order over a year ago was $26 after shipping and customs import fee so I am set for a long while.
https://triplebmetals.com/
Perhaps in a BP muzzle loading shotgun it might help as those patterns seem weak @ times . Not traditional but maybe a big advantage with water fowl yardage and patterns ,and required by law . Only negative it is extremely expensive for a limit of anything!!/EdBallistically speaking, it is superior. Smaller shot is more lethal at longer ranges and more pellets per shell. If you can kill birds at long ranges, it will help. If you get them in close (less than 40 yds) then it's an unnecessary expense.
This fascination with the .410 is a little extreme. Yes, the use of these "hevi'shot" options make taking turkey with smaller gauge guns possible, but in my opinion, NOT desirable. The smallest I would go is 20 gauge. Just think, a few years ago, the hardcore turkey hunter was using a 10 or 12 gauge with lead shot. To go to a .410, even with better shot, is a big jump. I would think that it makes turkey hunting more possible for Kids and small women. That's a good thing.I was looking back through here and just saw this post. Thanks for posting the link, because I’ve been thinking about trying to load some tungsten and didn’t want to pay the BP price.
I see in here too that at least a couple of y’all use a 410, and I’ve been thinking about maybe trying an Encore 410 pistol for turkeys if a can get a tungsten load that’ll work.
As I said, I’m still in the thinking stage of this project and to be honest not enough of a turkey hunter to even go down the rabbit hole of reloading tungsten.This fascination with the .410 is a little extreme. Yes, the use of these "hevi'shot" options make taking turkey with smaller gauge guns possible, but in my opinion, NOT desirable. The smallest I would go is 20 gauge. Just think, a few years ago, the hardcore turkey hunter was using a 10 or 12 gauge with lead shot. To go to a .410, even with better shot, is a big jump. I would think that it makes turkey hunting more possible for Kids and small women. That's a good thing.
Of the turkeys I’ve killed, the furthest has been 36 yards last fall with a crossbow, and the closest was 8 yards last spring with a 12 ga.Ballistically speaking, it is superior. Smaller shot is more lethal at longer ranges and more pellets per shell. If you can kill birds at long ranges, it will help. If you get them in close (less than 40 yds) then it's an unnecessary expense.
I think a .410 pistol with TSS would be fantastic for turkeys to moderate ranges. One of my hardcore turkey hunter buddies just built one.I see in here too that at least a couple of y’all use a 410, and I’ve been thinking about maybe trying an Encore 410 pistol for turkeys if a can get a tungsten load that’ll work.
Factory Encore 410 barrels are ridiculously priced, but I recently discovered SSK is making them at much more reasonable prices. If I do decide to follow through with this brainstorm, that’s the route I’ll go.I think a .410 pistol with TSS would be fantastic for turkeys to moderate ranges. One of my hardcore turkey hunter buddies just built one.
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Dammit, you just had to show a photo of this. About 1989 I saw a photo of a Ruger Redhawk that was set up right and went out and bought one. Now I want one of these too!!! Then I"d buy a Lee handloader in 410 rather than convert my Dillon so I could save about 50% on shotshell cost. I first shot an Encore pistol in 357 Herrett, about 1978, and loved it. This could replace my Rem super mag. I wonder if red/green dot or reflex would like to sit on top of the rib. This rabbit hole is as big as the grand canyon.I think a .410 pistol with TSS would be fantastic for turkeys to moderate ranges. One of my hardcore turkey hunter buddies just built one.
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Load details, please.So the last three years I’ve used my Steven’s 410 for turkey and I’ve killed three birds with it. All public land birds. Stock gun, stock choke, and a cheap 90 dollar red dot. The one place I do want to spend my money is on the all important shell for the trigger pull. Once you have a shell you like, and you are patterned, think of it as 6-9 dollars a turkey. Solid deal in my opinion. ESPECIALLY if I get the benefit of a 4lb, loud as a .22 turkey slayer that I can hike up hills without it even crossing my mind. The 40 yard patterns I get are absurd and I’m 100% confident it would drop a tom at 50 if the shot lane was there (not that I’m trying to long range kill birds).
So long story short, as a tool to allow you to harness the benefits of the sub gauges, it’s absolutely worth the money. I’ll attach a pic of my latest 40 yard pattern. View attachment 43148
SWEET!!!!I think a .410 pistol with TSS would be fantastic for turkeys to moderate ranges. One of my hardcore turkey hunter buddies just built one.
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