Idaholewis
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I was sent some No Excuses Bullets by 2 Different Forum members to Test their Hardness, Twild, and SteveH sent the Samples.
My findings with Twilds Bullets, He sent me 5 total, All 5 Bullets were Consistent at .040 on my Dial. I use a Cabin Tree Lead Hardness Tester. At .040 on my Dial that is Just over Pure lead, and under 1-40 Alloy, i would say 6-7 BHN, or there very close abouts. Pure lead is 5 BHN
Here is my Chart, after i test a sample i look at the Dial on my tester, I then match that number with my Chart to find the BHN (Brinell Hardness)
Up next was the SteveH Bullets, he sent me 6 total, 3 of which he had marked #1, and 3 of which he had marked #2, i started with #1, The very first thing i did here was look at all 3 Bullet bases, I IMMEDIATELY spotted a Telltale Sign of a Hard bullet on 1 of the bullet bases, But ONLY 1 of them. This is what i am talking about
Notice the Odd shape in the Center of the Center bullet Base here? It is a “Pulled/Torn” Sprue, in ALL of my findings over the last few years of doing LOTS N LOTS of this stuff, this “Pull/Tear” starts to happen at 9-9.5 BHN, Anything 8.5 and Below will show a “Slide/Smear” Cut Sprue. If you look closely you can see the “Slide/Smear Sprue Cut in the Left Bullet, These Bullet bases are in HORRIBLE shape, as Bad as I’ve ever seen. I sure hope these Don’t come this way From NE Bullets?
I tested the Center Bullet first, it read .071 on my Dial, that is HARD, Almost Wheel Weight Hard! .071 on my Dial would indicate a Brinell Hardness of 10.5 to 11
All other (5) SteveH Bullets measured .40-.45 on my Dial, .045 is where 1-40 Starts. I asked Steve to look through the rest of his Bullets and look for the “Pull/Tear” Sprues, He did so and found more of them that Show it. I believe these were of the Same box of Bullets that Ron Tested A few years back? If so, this Explains the outcome of Ron’s Test.
What bothers me the Worst about this is the Varying BHN Throughout the Same Box of Bullets, These would never Group that Great. Shoot a 1-40, then a Wheel weight hard Bullet, They will Group Differently. Some rifles are a Bit more forgiving, But this will stil Show!
My findings with Twilds Bullets, He sent me 5 total, All 5 Bullets were Consistent at .040 on my Dial. I use a Cabin Tree Lead Hardness Tester. At .040 on my Dial that is Just over Pure lead, and under 1-40 Alloy, i would say 6-7 BHN, or there very close abouts. Pure lead is 5 BHN
Here is my Chart, after i test a sample i look at the Dial on my tester, I then match that number with my Chart to find the BHN (Brinell Hardness)
Up next was the SteveH Bullets, he sent me 6 total, 3 of which he had marked #1, and 3 of which he had marked #2, i started with #1, The very first thing i did here was look at all 3 Bullet bases, I IMMEDIATELY spotted a Telltale Sign of a Hard bullet on 1 of the bullet bases, But ONLY 1 of them. This is what i am talking about
Notice the Odd shape in the Center of the Center bullet Base here? It is a “Pulled/Torn” Sprue, in ALL of my findings over the last few years of doing LOTS N LOTS of this stuff, this “Pull/Tear” starts to happen at 9-9.5 BHN, Anything 8.5 and Below will show a “Slide/Smear” Cut Sprue. If you look closely you can see the “Slide/Smear Sprue Cut in the Left Bullet, These Bullet bases are in HORRIBLE shape, as Bad as I’ve ever seen. I sure hope these Don’t come this way From NE Bullets?
I tested the Center Bullet first, it read .071 on my Dial, that is HARD, Almost Wheel Weight Hard! .071 on my Dial would indicate a Brinell Hardness of 10.5 to 11
All other (5) SteveH Bullets measured .40-.45 on my Dial, .045 is where 1-40 Starts. I asked Steve to look through the rest of his Bullets and look for the “Pull/Tear” Sprues, He did so and found more of them that Show it. I believe these were of the Same box of Bullets that Ron Tested A few years back? If so, this Explains the outcome of Ron’s Test.
What bothers me the Worst about this is the Varying BHN Throughout the Same Box of Bullets, These would never Group that Great. Shoot a 1-40, then a Wheel weight hard Bullet, They will Group Differently. Some rifles are a Bit more forgiving, But this will stil Show!