Hornady redesigned the 200 gr SST for 2009. This is what the new catalog states: a projectile that penetrates better, retains more weight, and expands more agressively. It does not mention anything about how the construction has changed only that it has the Flex Tip Technology. This should stir things up again as most members here have either a love or hate relationship with these bullets. I love their accuracy, but am not overly pleased with their perfomance on deer.
Hornady redesigns 200 gr SST for 2009
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Maybe those calls to the Hornady bullesticions actually did something... I plan on calling Monday to see if I can get a better idea of what changes have been made.
If they made the jacket thicker/tougher, I may have just gotten the best belated Christmas present ever
If they made the jacket thicker/tougher, I may have just gotten the best belated Christmas present ever
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Hornady has a new pistol bullet that looks like an XTP with a hole drilled in that is filled with soft plastic: They call it the FTX.
I looked through the "new for 2009" stuff on the Hornady site, I don't see anything about the 200 gr .400 SST, but they have the FTX in bulk showing up on the site. Maybe I missed it? These are also the Hornady LEVERevolution bullets. The FTX bullets are also in my January 2009 MidwayUSA flyer.
I bought some .45/40 200gr SST just the other day, the ad card in the box said.
They are the same hard tipped SST's that they have always had. The only thing I can figure is, the old packaging ran out before the bullets or the old polymer tips did.
Scroll down to the bottom of the .50 cal muzzleloader .452 45 cal 250 GR FTX.
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_sessio ... 992d2a2166
The .430 44 cal 265 GR FTX might be a good one to consider. Check both links.
http://www.hornady.com/images/sell_shee ... ets%20.pdf
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=789
WONDER if that .358 35 cal 200 GR FTX with the .300 BC would stabalize in the MMP .357 sabot out of 1:30 twist? 1:20 twist? My guess is that the petals are not long enough to hold the bullet properly, I have never seen these sabots before. The sabot might not be able to hold up to the pressures anyways since Dels maximum recommended loads are 80 gr powder and 160 gr bullet. Well anyways MidwayUSA has those bullets 100 @ $33.99. The .430/.452/.458 range from $22.99 to $26.99 for 50. IF someone made a sabot and barrel twist to handle them, that would be awesome.
This is all they list for the .45 cal muzzleloader bullets.
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_sessio ... e50820f1a1
If anyone gets any more info on the 200 gr SST, please post.
Thanks.
I bought some .45/40 200gr SST just the other day, the ad card in the box said.
They are the same hard tipped SST's that they have always had. The only thing I can figure is, the old packaging ran out before the bullets or the old polymer tips did.
Scroll down to the bottom of the .50 cal muzzleloader .452 45 cal 250 GR FTX.
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_sessio ... 992d2a2166
The .430 44 cal 265 GR FTX might be a good one to consider. Check both links.
http://www.hornady.com/images/sell_shee ... ets%20.pdf
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=789
WONDER if that .358 35 cal 200 GR FTX with the .300 BC would stabalize in the MMP .357 sabot out of 1:30 twist? 1:20 twist? My guess is that the petals are not long enough to hold the bullet properly, I have never seen these sabots before. The sabot might not be able to hold up to the pressures anyways since Dels maximum recommended loads are 80 gr powder and 160 gr bullet. Well anyways MidwayUSA has those bullets 100 @ $33.99. The .430/.452/.458 range from $22.99 to $26.99 for 50. IF someone made a sabot and barrel twist to handle them, that would be awesome.
This is all they list for the .45 cal muzzleloader bullets.
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_sessio ... e50820f1a1
If anyone gets any more info on the 200 gr SST, please post.
Thanks.
I am just passing along information from the new 2009 Hornady catalog that I received this last weekend in the mail. Since I have had such good luck with the LEVERevolution ammo I am hoping that the new ML bullets are in fact FTX bullets. When they get them in over at Midway I will be driving over to pick some up.
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tooldog,
If you have a Jan 2009 Midway USA flyer, check the lower left quadrant of page #25. They have the LEVERevolution FTX bullets in there.
.308 160 gr 100@ $26.99, .358 200 gr 100@ $33.99, .430 265 gr 50@ $25.99, .452 200 gr 50@ $22.99 & 250 gr 50@ $25.99, .458 325 gr 50@ $26.99, .500 300 gr 50@ $26.99.
I don't see any .400 cal 200 grain FTX anywhere, I sure hope they do something with those too. Let us know when you get some and how they do.
If you have a Jan 2009 Midway USA flyer, check the lower left quadrant of page #25. They have the LEVERevolution FTX bullets in there.
.308 160 gr 100@ $26.99, .358 200 gr 100@ $33.99, .430 265 gr 50@ $25.99, .452 200 gr 50@ $22.99 & 250 gr 50@ $25.99, .458 325 gr 50@ $26.99, .500 300 gr 50@ $26.99.
I don't see any .400 cal 200 grain FTX anywhere, I sure hope they do something with those too. Let us know when you get some and how they do.
revpilot said:
I got a new Knight Elite .45 that I need to play with, that is what I want them little bullets for. I also plan on shooting some .357-.358 bullets out of it for some long range target/woodchuck/varmint. I just need to find out what bullets will stabilize in it. If that .358 200 grain FTX with the .300 BC would stabilize, that would be THE perfect long range deer bullet IMO. The problem is, I don't think MMP's current .45/.357 sabot is up to the task, nor the slow 1:30 twist rifling in the Knight. I have a .451 White with a 1:20 twist and a 209 conversion that I can and will do some testing with also.
Don't get me wrong, I have several .50 caliber deer loads from the 200 gr Shockwave, 250 & 300 gr SST, 350 gr FPB, 430 gr White Super Slug, 440 gr White Power Punch, to the 460 gr No Excuses. Accurate loads are boring, I like something new and challenging, gets me out shooting more. I only own one center-fire rifle, a H&R Ultra Varmint .223 for varmint/coyote hunting. With the new Blackhorn 209, I think I can turn my .45 Elite into my new Varmint rifle with some of the very light .357-358 bullets in the MMP sabots. While I am at it I will try the new .358 200 gr FTX if it is not too long for the sabot. I just like playing
The advantage of shooting a .400 200 gr bullet over a .452 200 grain bullet would really depend on what you want to do with it. the .400 will have a much higher BC than the fat short .452 and better trajectory and penetration are obvious. The short .452 200 grain might not stabilize well in a 1:28 twist, it might like a slower twist rate or smaller charge, I have never shot a .452 that light in a muzzleloader.
