Dean, I know that you like the White ML's, so how does the MK-85 compare to the White ML?The MK-85 is my favorite out of all the Knights, while I like the Disc/bolt guns none of them feel as nice as a walnut stock MK..like the laminated ones as well they just feel a bit blockier and bulkier if that makes sense.
They will shoot as good as any of the bolt guns with right loads, just a little bit more to clean them up.
For a mint MK I would give up to 325.00 maybe 350.00 especially if I had no plans to get rid of it.
That Super 90 . That’s a bit of White history for sure . There were 60. But there were 10 prototypes .i have # 4 prototype which is a .451 .Knight might have been first but Doc White had his action way before and improved on the Knight action.
Copied from Doc's website:
I had conceptualized the bolt action that eventually became the W-series rifles as early as 1968. During the GRRW days, in the 70’s, I made the first such action, a fair copy of a Springfield bolt action, as a joke. Being a bunch of traditionalists at GRRW, we laughed and went about our business. The action sat on a shelf for near 15 years until Tony Knight brought out the MK-85 in the late 80’s. I immediately saw that my action was an improvement over his and determined to bring it to market. The action needed a bit of tuning, the then problem being the bolt handle, but I had it ready for market in mid 1990 without the bolt handle and featuring a pullcock similar to that on the Springfield 03. I personally hand made 60 of the rifles, designated the Super-90, wrote a 4 page brochure, mailed out 500 copies to selected Utah clients and sold every on of that first 60 by Christmas.
Thanks Dean. Appreciate you for the information.As far as feel I like the walnut stocked MK the best, as far as accuracy I believe with the right load combos they are equal..you more then likely will get a bit better accuracy with big lead from the Whites due to barrel twist, but with a lighter conical they shoot just as well..
Knights were designed primarily to shoot sabots and they do it very well.
I like both equally with their preferred loads as far as accuracy, clean up is identical so thats a wash.
My .451 White with custom stock does feel as good as a walnut stocked White but the factory wood stocks on the Whites are a lot beefier(thicker) feeling, dont feel bad just not as comfortable as the wood stocked MK`s.
Thank you for the information!!!!For me the twist rate is the defining factor. I prefer the faster twist of Whites but the MK 85 made the list of 50 best guns ever made . Can’t go wrong with one ..... or several
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.muzzleloaders.com/articles/knight-mk-85-muzzleloader/amp/
Thank you for the history on the White ML's!!!!!Knight might have been first but Doc White had his action way before and improved on the Knight action.
Copied from Doc's website:
I had conceptualized the bolt action that eventually became the W-series rifles as early as 1968. During the GRRW days, in the 70’s, I made the first such action, a fair copy of a Springfield bolt action, as a joke. Being a bunch of traditionalists at GRRW, we laughed and went about our business. The action sat on a shelf for near 15 years until Tony Knight brought out the MK-85 in the late 80’s. I immediately saw that my action was an improvement over his and determined to bring it to market. The action needed a bit of tuning, the then problem being the bolt handle, but I had it ready for market in mid 1990 without the bolt handle and featuring a pullcock similar to that on the Springfield 03. I personally hand made 60 of the rifles, designated the Super-90, wrote a 4 page brochure, mailed out 500 copies to selected Utah clients and sold every on of that first 60 by Christmas.
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