I really don't know where you got the idea they won't blowMany muzzle loaders are "proofed" with double and triple loads, and the barrels don't burst. I wonder if maybe someone used "smokeless powder instead of black powder to load the gun.
I really don't know where you got the idea they won't blowMany muzzle loaders are "proofed" with double and triple loads, and the barrels don't burst. I wonder if maybe someone used "smokeless powder instead of black powder to load the gun.
Chuck Hawkes website indicates the concept of proofing barrels in Spain / Europe is not the same as it is in USA manufacturing. We won’t buy another from off shore. That may be dated information but it’s enough for me to move on.I really don't know where you got the idea they won't blow
Witness marks….
Going on….
My ramrod… —TODAY!
I may be an idiot, (OK, I admit it, I AM-)
..but I’m not such an idiot to ignore the sound advice on this board that may very well prevent me from blowing up my gun in my face!
Too easy.
And, of course, adding mass inside the barrel (possibly up to 500 grains by weight) will increase pressures behind it immensely. That’s a lot of inertia!
And good on CVA for putting out this video, among others, encouraging safe practices.
Chuck Hawkes website indicates the concept of proofing barrels in Spain / Europe is not the same as it is in USA manufacturing.
Sorry, not buying it. People have overloaded these guns on purpose with double and triple loads of 4f blackpowder and the gun just shoots. Doesn’t even bulge the barrel. I don’t know how a double load of Triple 7 would behave but I know how a smokeless load behaves in a rifle not built for it. Kablooey…It is the weight of the 2nd bullet and powder charge on top of the first that creates the issue.
This X2. I’ve been shooting these guns with blackpowder, Pyrodex and Triple 7 for over 60 years and I've never heard of a catastrophic failure that didn’t involve smokeless powders. Maybe this is the time but color me dubious.Found this which was associated with original write up of the accident:
Timothy
19 November, 2022
This person should be held liable for all medical expenses, and sued in civil court. It doesn't matter if it was an accident. With freedom comes responsibility.
Goes to show you what your fellow shooters are capable of, be wary of who gathers around you.
Have a feeling the wrong type of powder, not black powder, was the cause of the explosion.
That's the first thing I thought of. Or maybe they didn't get the ball or projectile rammed down on the powder charge.Many muzzle loaders are "proofed" with double and triple loads, and the barrels don't burst. I wonder if maybe someone used "smokeless powder instead of black powder to load the gun.
That probably would happen with a sidelock or a plunger in-line but it’s not going to happen with a closed breech, like break open guns or bolts or an Omega type action.I have been scratching my head trying to remember what I read about 50 years ago. It was Sam Fadala testing a barrel and tried to "blow it up". If I remember all the gases exited the nipple hole and the barrel was fine. Please set me straight if this old mind is off base on this one. I still have the book, just can't remember where it is......too much ML stuff!
I would look really close for a bulge or loose spot in there before shooting that one again.I ran into a guy who shot his ramrod down range with a max load of BH209. He said it knocked him off the bench and cracked his stock. Also said it shortened his ramrod by about 4 inches. He said he would never do that again. Barrel was “fine” according to the owner but messed up his should and the stock.
Thats simpleSorry, not buying it. People have overloaded these guns on purpose with double and triple loads of 4f blackpowder and the gun just shoots. Doesn’t even bulge the barrel. I don’t know how a double load of Triple 7 would behave but I know how a smokeless load behaves in a rifle not built for it. Kablooey…
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