I don't recall which of you fine gentleman put me on to these bullets,but thanks for a great suggestion.I shot 3 groups of 3 shots each from my Pro Hunter using 2F 777 at 90,95 and 100 grains by volume. All the groups were held within 1/2 inch @ 50 yards.I used 777 primers and my small rifle primers for ignition. They also loaded down the barrel with relative ease! Did'nt think any bullet could be more accurate than the Barnes spitzers.Just hope they do the trick for clean kills?