Ahhhh okay, I figured we were talking about the forum LOL. I didn't want anyone to get offended due to the rules the way they are. As long as its got a side hammer, loads in the muzzle and has the traditional styling but uses different materials, its still a traditional gun IMO. Remember, a lot of the plastic guns the companies made due to the eastern laws that put hunting season in very poor winter weather and they wanted to market the Non swelling stock when it gets wet/won't rust up SS Barrel, etc.