I must say I was really surprised this past weekend, my nephew brought me a rifle over to look at that I bought him years ago. So to make a long story short this rifle has been loaded close to 10 years he forgot that it was after alot personal problems and moving around alot so he wanted me to shoot it well to say I believed you could shoot it no I did not think you could. But I said well put a little powder in the drum an see well boom it shot off the first number 11 cap . Surprised shocked I was. The riflehas been loaded with triple 7 loose powder and a 240 great hornaday xtp in a orange sabot. All I can say wow it only took about a hour to clean it and it looks great by the way the rifle is a traditions 54 cal deerhunter.