Goex to close

[52Bore]

Received notice this evening that Goex is closing.
Sad

 

[Bushfire]

Hmmm that's going to make getting BP a whole lot of fun for you guys. Be a bit of a rush on that and Swiss I imagine.

I wonder if someone else is going to branch out into real BP?

 

[deermanok]

Supplies are tough to find as it is.
I can see the cost of Swiss and Schuetzen skyrocketing, putting the price tag beyond the reach of many of us, myself included.

 

[eekjellander]

Bad news is getting more common every day !

 

[Caniborrowsomeammo]

With all the powder they can sell at this time, I wonder if it is a future supply problem of raw materials that has led to this decision. Or are BP subs taking over. Just talking out loud.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Between this forum and our sister(?) forum surely we can come up with a group of investors to buy GOEX from Hodgdon and keep making it.

 

[sheriffjohn]

Wonder if there's any stock on hand? Hmmm.

 

[Caniborrowsomeammo]

Selling out FAST. Well, hasn't been much in stock anywhoo.

 

[earlthegoat2]

2f and 3f are quickly becoming unobtainium track still has some of one but not the other at an inflated price.

I guess I could use Swiss 1.5 for my 58…

 

[Confederate rifleman]

Although I shoot Swiss, I've shot my share of Goex.
But this IS an absolute DISASTER if not reversed. To have no domestic black powder production... There are substantial military applications of Holy Black. What's to become of that?
I went muzzloader only partly because they're on nobody's radar. Imagine if imported powder was curtailed? Or cut off?
I don't want to shoot Triple 7 and won't shoot Pyrodex. We need to turn the heat up on Hodgdon. We need to save Goex!

 

[Matthew323]

Without a domestic source of black powder, I fear the end is just around the corner for muzzleloading as I grew up with, and love with my heart & soul.

While necessity has forced me to own a highly modified CVA Optima V2 pistol, in lieu of a shoulder fired flintlock longrifle, my heart will always be 100% on the flintlock bandwagon.

And, without affordable real black powder, such as Graf & Sons, Goex, Schuetzen, or Olde Eynsford, shooting flintlocks will rapidly become a thing of the past. You cannot shoot substitutes in a flintlock without a 10 grain squib load of real black powder under the black powder substitute. And, of course, real black powder is a necessity for priming the pan of the lock.

For me, I lump Swiss black powder in with the substitutes, especially BH209. They all cost far more than basic black powder. And, if the shutdown of the domestic Goex black powder plant in Louisiana becomes a permanent reality, then the cost of the remaining propellants will skyrocket. Especially, if their availability is restricted due to political, or economic, factors having nothing to do with the ability to staff, operate, and obtain the raw materials necessary to run a manufacturing plant.

Which my sources tell me is the current reason for the lack of many of the items we have taken for granted in the muzzleloading community.

Most Americans would not be opposed to such a ban, as they only think of black powder as a dangerous explosive, useful only for fireworks, & pipe bombs.

 

[Idaholewis]

I see BACO is out of Goex, and don’t have it on their website anymore, They always had a LARGE quantity of Goex, That is a Shame

 

[edmehlig]

Supplies are tough to find as it is.
I can see the cost of Swiss and Schuetzen skyrocketing, putting the price tag beyond the reach of many of us, myself included.

I just bought a lb of Swiss 2F at Dixon's and it cost me with tax $40.28. I may have to see what Pryodex P goes for if the prices go higher?

 

[Bad Karma]

Without a domestic source of black powder, I fear the end is just around the corner for muzzleloading as I grew up with, and love with my heart & soul. All it will take is a bill proposed in Congress, could be a bill piggybacked onto another innocuous bill, and the foreign imports of black powder could be banned just like a snap of the fingers.

While necessity has forced me to own a highly modified CVA Optima V2 pistol, in lieu of a shoulder fired flintlock longrifle, my heart will always be 100% on the flintlock bandwagon.

And, without affordable real black powder, such as Graf & Sons, Goex, Schuetzen, or Olde Eynsford, shooting flintlocks will rapidly become a thing of the past. You cannot shoot substitutes in a flintlock without a 10 grain squib load of real black powder under the black powder substitute. And, of course, real black powder is a necessity for priming the pan of the lock.

For me, I lump Swiss black powder in with the substitutes, especially BH209. They all cost far more than basic black powder. And, if the shutdown of the domestic Goex black powder plant in Louisiana becomes a permanent reality, then the cost of the remaining propellants will skyrocket. Especially, if their availability is restricted due to political, or economic, factors having nothing to do with the ability to staff, operate, and obtain the raw materials necessary to run a manufacturing plant.

Which my sources tell me is the current reason for the lack of many of the items we have taken for granted in the muzzleloading community.

Most Americans would not be opposed to such a ban, as they only think of black powder as a dangerous explosive, useful only for fireworks, & pipe bombs.

The military thinks otherwise and hopefully those contracts are enough to make the GOEX plant a worthwhile purchase for someone with a few free dollars from the FED.

 

[Bad Karma]

Between this forum and our sister(?) forum surely we can come up with a group of investors to buy GOEX from Hodgdon and keep making it.

Keep thinking along that track…

 

[Faaargo]

Goex fire extinguished, no injuries reported

Maybe this is the straw that broke goex’s back.

 

[52Bore]

Goex fire extinguished, no injuries reported

Maybe this is the straw that broke goex’s back.

Yes, they had a fire in June 2021.
Last report I heard from the NMLRA communication was they were planning to be up and running by years end. Fulfilling govt contracts 1st, then sporting…hopefully no effect to June 2022 National match.
That all has apparently changed in recent weeks.

 

[Firewater Forge]

Anywhere I check no one has 2f on any f for that matter. #@%$&#@##$%$#!!!!!

 

[Firewater Forge]

I have access to some 777, but is it smokeless?
That big grey cloud of smoke is part of the experience.

 

[edmehlig]

Cabelas in Newark De had a lot of 777