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I have read that after breaking in a new barrel, some bench rest shooters will not clean their bore until they have accuracy issues. There again some clean after every so many shots. This bullet to bore style muzzleloading is new to me. Where do you all stand on when, where and how to clean your bores to get the most accurate groups. Ty shorty.
 
All of my bullet to bore shooting barrels I clean around every 30 to 40 rounds,,, I usually don't try a group until I've got four or five shots on the barrel and I consider the first group out of a clean barrel in a sense to just be a fouling group rather than one foul shot I don't expect the barrels to group into a hole until the 4th or 5th bullet! I too have read about a lot of others that don't clean until they're getting accuracy issues my mind has just not been able to let me do that,, not that I'm a clean freak either. I do have a couple of barrels that seem to foul a little bit more than the others I can feel that when I'm seating a bullet, when it really kind of gets a crunchy hard feel I usually will stop and clean, but but I do have some barrels that don't have quiet as good a bore that feel a little crunchy no matter what load or bullet or how many shots I have on them. One thing I am noticing with the 209 primed Omega barrel that I got from Woodman arms that I'm shooting light smokeless loads in I've cleaned every 20 shots,, Woodman arms plug is staying much cleaner than my Arrowhead or hankins plug would with a large rifle primer and a brass module I did not expect that,,, perhaps it's the kind of steal that Mark is using I don't know,, I have the answer for that I sure didn't expect it . Shooting 209s in the smokeless is making me look at the whole primer issue a little differently now at least in this gun.
 
Unless I plan on shooting again in the next day or two, I clean the rifle after every session. Doesn't matter rather its shooting BH or Benchmark, I keep my rifles clean. Yup, a clean freak :)
I have zero issues shooting without a lot of fouling.
At the long range match, you couldn't foul or bust a primer prior to the starting of the match. First shots at 800yds with a clean bore scored 7, 9, 10.
I'm shooting the Arrowhead system but with hardened modules and Federal 215M Match primers. My plug cleans easily.
I never use brass modules when shooting SML.
 
I have a Krieger r 1 and 18 twists that shoots the first shot second shot third shot all in the group it does never need a foul shot,, I guess if I had to give a suggestion to anyone just getting into smokeless I would tend to be in encores camp clean your gun after you shoot it. I try to let my barrel tell me how many shots it needs before it will group and when it needs cleaned,,, nothing wrong with consistent cleaning habits,, nothing wrong with listening to your guns needs to
 
I noticed very little copper fouling in my smokeless bores,, if you're talking about the type of copper fouling that sometimes we had to deal with in centerfires rifles. I guess if I was getting a lot of blue tint or what looked like copper fouling in my patches I might focus on it a little bit more perhaps with something a little stronger a copper foul type cleaner,, I have not had any of the 15 smokeless guns I have shot show signs of copper fouling,,, no maybe those that are shooting solid copper bullets are having a different experience I cannot speak to that.
 
LOL........ I'm pretty particular about ... clean. Imagine that ;)

I'm a one rifle shooter and with as much shooting as I might do, there is "some" copper buildup in my rifle. Also I shoot both BH209 and SML from the rifle. I also go from thinner jacketed bullets to thicker jacketed bullets. When I go from SML to BH, I clean down to a bare metal barrel, which includes using Montana Extreme Copper Killer. Yup, there's blue....
 
TY .Just wondering as i did not buy my Teslong bore scope yet...
My Teslong bore scope is probably best maintenance tool I ever bought.

I’ll wait until my Patriot loses accuracy before I clean it for first time - then I’ll decide how often I need to clean it. I’ll probably clean it with Wipe-Out foam just like I do with my centerfires
 
I have read that after breaking in a new barrel, some bench rest shooters will not clean their bore until they have accuracy issues. There again some clean after every so many shots. This bullet to bore style muzzleloading is new to me. Where do you all stand on when, where and how to clean your bores to get the most accurate groups. Ty shorty.
Great topic & posts.
I haven't gotten to shoot smokeless yet, but in my ML's after a few times out shooting, as an " extra " precautionary measure I'll use some Birchwood Casey Super Strength Bore Scrubber on a bore mop, ( thats a really good product IMHO ) then a few passes with a brush, then cleaning patches. I shoot jacketed & cast lead bullets in all my ML's except for my Paramount. So its " preventative maintenance ".
 
Or brush........
Yep, just anything dry that busts through the heavier crud left behind. Mainly if shooting sabotless so you dont end up with a bullet loading tighter. Wont be a huge deal with sabots unless using a dirtier powder like Re7. To me Re7 was dirty enough i could feel a difference even before i was done at the range.
 
I also like montana extreme copper killer. I use it on all my center fire rifles and pistols. Great stuff if done with manufacturers instuctions. Never heard of wipe out foam, will look into it. Also will definitely wipe bore when done firing for the day, unless i clean it. Good info from all. I will put that in my bag of tricks for the future. Ty
 

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